[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So if they tear down the home behind yours, and put up a for-profit inpatient drug rehab center in its place you'll be okay with that. Afterall, it's a business, and businesses are designed to make money.

In the fifteen years that we have been observing closely this remarkable place, the developers have not done anything that would not be a benefit to the overall place and to us and of course make this whole place a more desirable place to buy into.

I am liking that. Maybe Mark Morse is like Attilla the Hun, but I sort of get that he is a responsible man, born in Michigan with great parents who raised him kinda like most of the people here were raised. He and his Sisters and their parents have wagered their own money time and time again on this place and they have made a place like few others on this earth. They did it without government funding and without gouging us. I think that they have tried to provide a lovely place to live for most people's means.

I am a huge fan of the process of good businesses doing good things. I see companies like The Villages being careful not to waste money. It is THEIR money. It is also great to see that they provide employment for the people who build and also for all of the related industries that provide for the people who live here.

I like the way that works.

[Ben Franklin]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

And here is a perfect example of what the previous posters were referring to. This is a GREAT place. Been here 5 years and love it. Walked in with eyes wide open and no regrets. No clue why people move here and immediately want to change TV into what THEY think it should be.

Perhaps a course in remedial reading is needed. I didn't say I wanted to change anything. I did say they need to widen some roads, unless, of course, you never drove those roads, or you don't mind sitting in a parking lot, when you are driving. Maybe you like socialism. To each his own.

[Nucky]

The way I look at it is who from the Developers Staff is out to hurt me today? That's correct. NOBODY.

We've seen this same kind of wavelength at a Family Camp Ground on the Delaware River in Pennsylvania. The owners were constantly trying to update, maintain and improve the operation for those who were Seasonal Residents and for the weekend visitors. They like the Morris (Morse) Gang were constantly hammered for doing absolutely NOTHING wrong.

The 5th wheel and travel trailers that many people owned were stunningly beautiful and the owners were of the $$ same caliber $$ as many people who cry the same river as those in The Villages.

I don't love 'em, I don't hate anyone. The Developers don't impact my life at this moment one bit. I think I would like to take a moment to thank them for maintaining such a beautiful place to live for us even though it's filled with a lot of negative people.

[Laker14]

I think some people mischaracterize a changing marketing plan as a "broken promise". I never met Harold Schwartz. He never promised me a thing. I was a dentist in a practice that my grandfather started in 1925. I don't think I'd have had much of a practice in 2010 if I felt I had to do everything the way Grandpa did. And there were some people who complained that I didn't do everything the way Grandpa did. Well, too bad. Grandpa ain't here anymore.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I think some people mischaracterize a changing marketing plan as a "broken promise". I never met Harold Schwartz. He never promised me a thing. I was a dentist in a practice that my grandfather started in 1925. I don't think I'd have had much of a practice in 2010 if I felt I had to do everything the way Grandpa did. And there were some people who complained that I didn't do everything the way Grandpa did. Well, too bad. Grandpa ain't here anymore.

Well said.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So if they tear down the home behind yours, and put up a for-profit inpatient drug rehab center in its place you'll be okay with that. Afterall, it's a business, and businesses are designed to make money.

When you run out of logical things to say, get angry or get silly. Happens often.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

In the fifteen years that we have been observing closely this remarkable place, the developers have not done anything that would not be a benefit to the overall place and to us and of course make this whole place a more desirable place to buy into.

I am liking that. Maybe Mark Morse is like Attilla the Hun, but I sort of get that he is a responsible man, born in Michigan with great parents who raised him kinda like most of the people here were raised. He and his Sisters and their parents have wagered their own money time and time again on this place and they have made a place like few others on this earth. They did it without government funding and without gouging us. I think that they have tried to provide a lovely place to live for most people's means.

I am a huge fan of the process of good businesses doing good things. I see companies like The Villages being careful not to waste money. It is THEIR money. It is also great to see that they provide employment for the people who build and also for all of the related industries that provide for the people who live here.

I like the way that works.

As always a voice of reason, thank you

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

LoriL is talking about the current generation of the family running the Developer corporation not respecting the generation that used to be in charge of it, but are now too busy being dead to reprimand them for going against their wishes.

Slackers...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So if they tear down the home behind yours, and put up a for-profit inpatient drug rehab center in its place you'll be okay with that. Afterall, it's a business, and businesses are designed to make money.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I knew we could find things to agree on!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Rsenholzi

First a history lesson. Mr Schwartz was the original developer for this area. He had a dream that he wanted to build an area for the “average guy” to live out their final days in an affordable area filled with activities for them. In those days you could see Mr. Schwartz walking down the street talking to the average guy. He was a personable , friendly man who cared about people. His goal was to keep the area small and affordable. As the area got bigger, he made a promise to all that the area would never get too large to forget the people.
When he passed, the children and grandchildren took over and their greed set in.

GREED! Everybody drink!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I knew we could find things to agree on!

Sorry, but...

[BlueStarAirlines]

The only Buffalo I know is Buffalo Trace.....

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Long time residents are aware that the Developer has done some shady things in the past and can't be trusted. Research the class action lawsuit brought against The developer due to misuse of amenity funds, that was settled to the tune of something like $40 million.

There was also a matter of false advertising, when the Developer promised free trail fees, free cable TV, free RV storage, free trash pickup, to anyone who purchased before a certain date. The Developer cancelled it all, and were subsequently sued. A settlement created a grandfathering in of exemptions to paying those fees for those homeowners.

Then there was the Paradise Rec Center, which was infested with termites and rodents, and had mold. The Developer (by way of the VCCDD) wanted to wash their hands of it, and were then sued and made to pay to have the old building torn down and replaced with a new one.

The Developer created a BEAUTIFUL community. But they cut corners (so many of you forget the 1000 or so homes with cracked foundations all built after 2008). They've reneged on promises, both verbal and in written advertisements. They have had to be sued in order to be required to live up to their claims.

And now they're suing my town because they want to change the commercial zoning of the Spanish Springs Town Square, which is located in Lady Lake, and turn it into mixed use. They've already been told no. But no isn't good enough for them so they're forcing the town to waste taxpayer money on a lawsuit.

There have been worse "creators/caretakers/overseers" of communities. There ARE worse. But to think the Morse Family is nicey-nicey and never does anything wrong is disingenuous, and frankly the people who make these ridiculous claims glorifying and practically deifying the Morse Family just give this community a BAD reputation of having a majority of residents with their heads stuck firmly in their nether regions.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Another posting with no facts.

The average 60 year old makes over $85,000.
The average 60 year old has a net worth over $1,200,000
The "average guy" can still afford The Villages, nothing is ruined.

"Unrest"...............is by a very, very small group of people.
Where in the USA is there not a very, very small group of unhappy people.

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