IRS office needed in The Villages?

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Old 03-31-2011, 02:35 AM
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Default Depending on your value of Federal Services

It could be a contradiction to desire much in terms of local service vs. a desire for limited government.

Indeed, if Congress doesn't agree on a short or long-term funding vehicle, any IRS service will likely be curtailed. Also, I wouldn't look for Social Security to provide a copy of a lost 1099 or a new or replacement Social Security card.

While I have a strong opinion on this - I am really trying to present a balanced picture. If you desire a limited government - you have to accept limited services.

Moreover, if you wish to keep taxes low (including taxes for large corporations and the very, very wealthy) you need to accept reductions in entitlements - including Medicare (the most pressing issue) and eventually Social Security.

The reality is that benefits to seniors need to be funded or curtailed. This is the choice you are presented with. Elections have consequences. Depending on each of our personal circumstance - you may support limited government or not.

What is an inherent contradiction is to ask government to fund your retirement without sufficient revenue (higher taxes) or serious cutbacks in previously sacrosanct programs - farm support, highway funds, defense, foreign aid (most of which goes to a few countries including Egypt and Israel), the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as direct aid to the states plus support for the poorest of the poor (Medicaid).

Going after funds for social wedge issues (NPR and Planned Parenthood) - while you may support the withdrawal of funding for these programs - these changes will have virtually no real impact on the deficit.

Please, understand - I am not suggesting what your choice should be. But, please don't fail to see the forest for one or two trees.

We have hard choices to make. Really hard choices - choices that will change our quality of life. There is no free ride. Someone has to pay.

For the last few decades, wealth in this country has concentrated in a smaller number of people. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe it is the same recipe for disaster that we are seeing played out in the middle east. Heck, if I know.

I just know that the country I grew up in is not the same country that I currently live in. And - the difference is only marginally the result of our porous borders. It is - far more - the product of our choices...and the hens are finally coming to roost. Think about the impact of your choices and be sure to let your voice be heard. No matter what your opinion is.

God bless us all - we will need it.

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I guess that about covers it all!
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:11 AM
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I guess that about covers it all!
I agree, and it was done without straying too far to either the left or right!
I, a Republican say... Harbor for Pres. and Redwitch for VP; fair and balanced!
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Harbor,

As a fiscally conservative moderate, it seems I am always pointing this out to my more conservative friends. You did an excellent job of pointing out that fiscal conservatism is at times to be in our own back yard.
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:40 PM
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Default The funny thing is...

That politically I am pretty far to the left. Did I cause anyone to faint?

I just think we need to be honest about how much government we really need and how much we can reasonably afford.

Underfund certain parts of government will cost you dearly in the long run. I'm sure some folks in Japan are wishing that they invested a wee bit more in the agency that provides independent nuclear plant inspections.

On the other hand, if we create a too cumbersome tax system - really wealthy folks/corporations will hire armies of CPAs and lawyers to find the one sentence in the tax code where they can avoid paying much of anything...and if they can't find that sentence they will just pick up and move to another country. I hear Ireland is beautiful this time of year.

This is a time to avoiding shouting (though let your representatives know your opinion), take a sip of California wine, and accept that "You Can't Always Get What You Want" - but, if you try some time, you might find, you'll get what you need!

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Old 03-31-2011, 05:51 PM
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That politically I am pretty far to the left. Did I cause anyone to faint?

I just think we need to be honest about how much government we really need and how much we can reasonably afford.

Underfund certain parts of government will cost you dearly in the long run. I'm sure some folks in Japan are wishing that they invested a wee bit more in the agency that provides independent nuclear plant inspections.

On the other hand, if we create a too cumbersome tax system - really wealthy folks/corporations will hire armies of CPAs and lawyers to find the one sentence in the tax code where they can avoid paying much of anything...and if they can't find that sentence they will just pick up and move to another country. I hear Ireland is beautiful this time of year.

This is a time to avoiding shouting (though let your representatives know your opinion), take a sip of California wine, and accept that "You Can't Always Get What You Want" - but, if you try some time, you might find, you'll get what you need!

Thanks to Mick Jagger!

All hail to Comrades Marx (Groucho) and Lennon (John).

Cheers!
Harbor (current plan to move to the Villages by Feb 2012)
Harbor, I was pretty sure you were to the left of me - but didn't want to get into a brawl with my more conservative brethren. And I think a ticket with you and Red would be fair - but not necessarily balanced....

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I do not think one or two people needing transportation is a reason to move an IRS office to TV.
Makes sense to me. Also agree that it's inconsistent with the need to cut federal spending.
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:27 PM
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Default What I really like about Villagers...

is that most are really, smart, caring folks who listen to each other even if they don't always agree.

It's hard to make the correct decision unless you thoughtfully discuss and really listen to other perspectives.

I have learned far more from my conservative friends than I have from folks who share my natural value system.

Indeed, it is my secret desire to play spin the bottle with Michelle Bachmann. Ideally, we will drink from the bottle prior to the game.

Remember, in every good Hollywood movie - any contradiction between protagonists will be resolved on an erotic level.

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