[Bucco]

Originally Posted by JP

Looks like it could be a hate crime to me too.
Where is the outrage?
Where's Al Sharpton.
That poor kid looked like he could have been my son.
What a waste of a life by a bunch of losers.
I hope they get the death penalty.

Not much outrage at all. Hard to find coverage on MSNBC site, but was a hate crime based on the tweets on race by the killers.

Also, while Australia is a bit upset...we do not appear to be so...

"Josh Earnest, principal deputy White House press secretary, said he was not familiar with the murder of Australian jogger Chris Lane during Wednesday’s White House briefing.

When asked by Fox News chief White House correspondent Ed Henry about the Chris Lane case, Earnest responded, “I’m not familiar with it, actually.”

Read more: White House spokesman 'not familiar with' Chris Lane murder | The Daily Caller

[ugotme]

Originally Posted by mikeod

Umm, no. They don't deserve to even think about wearing the same uniform I wore. I wouldn't trust them to be anywhere around our troops with a loaded weapon. Now, if you want to use them as a human shield, or to search for land mines or IEDs, unarmed, that's OK.

YES - an even better suggestion !!!!

[bimmertl]

Opinion: Negligent parents, lawbreaking kids - CNN.com

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Not much outrage at all. Hard to find coverage on MSNBC site, but was a hate crime based on the tweets on race by the killers.

Also, while Australia is a bit upset...we do not appear to be so...

"Josh Earnest, principal deputy White House press secretary, said he was not familiar with the murder of Australian jogger Chris Lane during Wednesday’s White House briefing.

When asked by Fox News chief White House correspondent Ed Henry about the Chris Lane case, Earnest responded, “I’m not familiar with it, actually.”

Read more: White House spokesman 'not familiar with' Chris Lane murder | The Daily Caller

What an INSULT to our Australian friends. Just horrible.

[Tracy1581]

WE live IN a society where we are removing the "traditional family" (mom and Dad) we are removing God , we have increased tv and movie violence, increased video games, glorify rappers that speak filth, and don't even have sports or other hero types for the kids to appreciate. We've become an "entitlement society" and this is what it reaps.

Sad but true. And where are the leaders now?? NO outrage?? This wasn't even a self defense case, just a all out "thrill - kill " Makes you wonder why they aren't speaking out now??

How can a thrill kill case NOT cause the OUTRAGE that a self defense case did? Is this really acceptable to society now? Should we continue to bury our heads in the sand and Pretend it did not happen?

[gomoho]

So the chief of police in Duncan Oklahoma has said in regards to the racial tweets:

"However, Duncan, Okla., police chief Dan Ford told the website that he does not believe Edwards' actions warrant a hate crime charge.

“I don’t think there’d be any further charge,” Ford said. “I’m not discounting the stuff that’s on there, but they do that for shock and effect.”

I have called his office to inquire how he determined this was not a hate crime, but done for shock and effect. His secretary was quite surprised by my call which surprised me because I assumed others would be as outraged as I am. I am now wondering exactly what does warrant a hate crime charge. Saying you hate 90% of white people and want to kill some woods sounds pretty serious to me.

If you wish to call and make an inquiry his name is Chief Ford and the number for the police department is 580 255-2112.

[janmcn]

[QUOTE=gomoho;731453]So the chief of police in Duncan Oklahoma has said in regards to the racial tweets:

"However, Duncan, Okla., police chief Dan Ford told the website that he does not believe Edwards' actions warrant a hate crime charge.

“I don’t think there’d be any further charge,” Ford said. “I’m not discounting the stuff that’s on there, but they do that for shock and effect.”

I have called his office to inquire how he determined this was not a hate crime, but done for shock and effect. His secretary was quite surprised by my call which surprised me because I assumed others would be as outraged as I am. I am now wondering exactly what does warrant a hate crime charge. Saying you hate 90% of white people and want to kill some woods sounds pretty serious to me.





Good for you for showing your outrage and questioning the local officials. Another poster wants to know where is the leadership? Good question. I have not seen Gov Mary Fallon (R-OK), or Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) or Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) or the local US Congressman on TV at all addressing this horrific crime.

[graciegirl]

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[wendyquat]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This is so awful, I don't know where to begin!!! Where is the 24 hour news coverage and the experts weighing in and the people talking, talking , talking about this? Why was he targeted? Why did this happen? Where are the parents of these kids? What the hell is happening?????

A man was gunned down because kids were bored and had a gun???

I am beginning to change my mind about gun ownership. I have never owned a gun but I am rethinking that. But not about people working so they won't be BORED.

What kind of world is this becoming?

The problem with that thinking is those boys did not have the guns legally! You can't get every gun off the streets. The criminals will ALWAYS find a way to get guns. They care little about registration, or any other gun restrictions. Thank you but I choose to exercise my right to bear arms so that I at least have something to defend myself against those criminals! Unfortunately, I share your concern about "what this world is coming to"! I do not want to be defenseless when it hits the fan!

[Bucco]

[quote=janmcn;731471]

Originally Posted by gomoho

So the chief of police in Duncan Oklahoma has said in regards to the racial tweets:

"However, Duncan, Okla., police chief Dan Ford told the website that he does not believe Edwards' actions warrant a hate crime charge.

“I don’t think there’d be any further charge,” Ford said. “I’m not discounting the stuff that’s on there, but they do that for shock and effect.”

I have called his office to inquire how he determined this was not a hate crime, but done for shock and effect. His secretary was quite surprised by my call which surprised me because I assumed others would be as outraged as I am. I am now wondering exactly what does warrant a hate crime charge. Saying you hate 90% of white people and want to kill some woods sounds pretty serious to me.





Good for you for showing your outrage and questioning the local officials. Another poster wants to know where is the leadership? Good question. I have not seen Gov Mary Fallon (R-OK), or Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) or Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) or the local US Congressman on TV at all addressing this horrific crime.

I am not sure this belongs in the political forum. I realize some pundits are making it that way, but that is only because of the insane issue that was made in the Zimmerman case.

This is hate killing for sure but allow the law to work...do what it does in the time it takes.

I am very disappointed the the LOUDNESS, AND ANGER is subdued and non existence in many of the corners that called all of us racists who would not take the streets and march. I cannot imagine those who came on here and said they marched for the other victim ever even considering driving to Sumter Landing for this man. No political gain I suppose

[gomoho]

I guess it's a one way street and we are headed the wrong way. It's so sad to see what is happening to our country.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I guess it's a one way street and we are headed the wrong way. It's so sad to see what is happening to our country.

I have felt for a long time that the saturation of cable "news" channels, who cannot possibly fill their time with "news" is a problem. Today we added another, Al Jazeera. MSNBC basically shut down any conversations on the Mid East until they had resolve on the Zimmerman issue, and believe me, if you read about Al Jazeera, while they are making an effort (spending tons of money) to appear reasonable will join the fray promoting what they want. It is not just these two networks, but nobody reads, searches for what is happening...just find a favorite "talking head" and rely on whatever you are told to be factual, when in reality most of it is not

This constant drone fills our homes 24/7...it appears that most are helpless to get out of the zones somebody put them in, and thus we find ourselves "taking sides" on every issue. It becomes difficult for people to call evil by its name...EVIL. We seem to want or need some "political" approval to condemn it.

[gomoho]

Bucco - I may be naïve, but I believe the majority of people do lean one way or the other and tend to watch the talking heads of their choice, but are intelligent enough to pick and choose what is being said and accept some and discard the rest.

I think things always seem to be so political because there is such a huge divide in this country right now with some strongly believing in their point and the other in theirs. Not sure people are looking for political approval, but are just tired of always being portrayed as the bad guy which forces some to speak louder than others.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Bucco - I may be naïve, but I believe the majority of people do lean one way or the other and tend to watch the talking heads of their choice, but are intelligent enough to pick and choose what is being said and accept some and discard the rest.

I think things always seem to be so political because there is such a huge divide in this country right now with some strongly believing in their point and the other in theirs. Not sure people are looking for political approval, but are just tired of always being portrayed as the bad guy which forces some to speak louder than others.

Maybe you right, and maybe I hope you are right.

I just think the divide you speak of is a result of the constant drone from the right and left on every subject, most of them do not need a right or left.

I think it has left us leaderless EXCEPT in politics, and politics is not an ingredient in everything, or not supposed to be.

[Golfingnut]

One of the men was half African American, one was African American and one was white. MSNBC claims this was a violent crime. FOX claims it was a racially motivated crime.