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Hard to believe anything union made could be affordable.
The price of EVs would come down if more people purchased them. More DEMAND for EVs would make for bigger factory assembly lines, which would increase production efficiency and bring prices down. Battery technology will improve in the future and so will more charging stations. EVs have many, many advantages and saying things bad about them is like saying, "stop the FUTURE".
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Ford and everyone else is losing a small fortune on EV's. They have no choice but to make them & them dump them. Without EV's, they can't meet CAFE requirements.
20 % OF NEW CAR sales in EUROPE are EVs. The US is at 7% I feeel that we are the backward ones.
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Old 05-05-2024, 01:53 PM
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Please tell us again which EV you own.

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20 % OF NEW CAR sales in EUROPE are EVs. The US is at 7% I feeel that we are the backward ones.
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Old 05-05-2024, 01:59 PM
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Please tell us again which EV you own.
Actually, I have the maximum that I can afford and for the spaces that I have to park them.
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Student Loan Forgiveness will cost the USA $400 BILLION over 30 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Biden's student loan forgiveness plan will cost $400 billion, budget office says : NPR

Not FOX news. Not CSPAN.
1. Yes....$400 billion in lost PROFITS! It's not like the government is going to be writing a $400 billion check. 2. The current student loan forgiveness proposal is not what the CBPO is referencing from 2022 (2years ago).
It's nice to see that people are upset about certain things. As long as you are there in that outrage, please weigh in on your thoughts that the government gives $1 trillion every year in subsidies (lost income to the US) to an oil industry that earn $4 trillion in profits?

Question: When are we getting back to the EV debate????
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1. Yes....$400 billion in lost PROFITS! It's not like the government is going to be writing a $400 billion check. 2. The current student loan forgiveness proposal is not what the CBPO is referencing from 2022 (2years ago).
It's nice to see that people are upset about certain things. As long as you are there in that outrage, please weigh in on your thoughts that the government gives $1 trillion every year in subsidies (lost income to the US) to an oil industry that earn $4 trillion in profits?

Question: When are we getting back to the EV debate????
So why does a company like Chevron have a higher tax rate than one like Amazon?
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Doesn't some of the blame belong on the USA's EPA ? They can make the lithium batteries in China but not the USA. China must be polluting another planet I guess.
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20 % OF NEW CAR sales in EUROPE are EVs. The US is at 7% I feeel that we are the backward ones.
Europeans don’t have to drive that far, so it practical in most cases.
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I disagree with both.

So you have student loan that you made choice to get and agreed to payoff?
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So why does a company like Chevron have a higher tax rate than one like Amazon?
And why does government make more on gallon gas than chevron? Why does Amazon get breaks??? $$$$$$$ donations maybe?
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Older people like in The Village should be aware that allergies and lung diseases are intensified by bad air. ICE engine vehicles and golf carts product BAD air and Electric vehicles do NOT. If bad health could be QUANTIFIABLE then people could see the problems of ICE vehicles. We ALL want more health and longer life, but NOT everyone sees the connection negatively for ICE vehicles.
.....There actually may be scientific studies that show longer life with the better air from E-vehicles. I am sure that there are studies about people living near factory smokestacks living shorter lives.
Have you heard of the Catholic converter
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Old 05-05-2024, 06:31 PM
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It’s a good first step, but it would be way better if ALL EV tax subsidies were eliminated. If EV’s can sell solely based on their stand alone economics, then they have a useful place in the marketplace. Forcing sals based on taxpayer subsidies and government mandates creates inefficiencies and diverts important private research and development dollars away from potentially better technology alternatives. And why should taxpayers that prioritize vehicle range and performance (towing capacity, 4WD, ground clearance, etc…) have to subsidize the EV crowd?
The government is trying to protect/promote US industries -- and their workers.

We (the US taxpayer) subsidized/bailed-out Harley Davidson, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear-Sterns (2008), Chrysler (1980), the Savings and Loan industry (1989), US Banks (200B), US Airlines (2001), 2008 TARP (700B!), American International Group Inc., (AIG) 2013, Airlines/COVID (2020), etc.

The government subsidies to promote their country's business. The Chinese government (and all US automakers) realize the future is in electric vehicles. The Chinese government subsidies a *lot* of Chinese cars, Sheetrock, steel and businesses--for a pragmatic reason. It makes good business sense. The Chinese spend up to 5% of their entire GDP in subsidies.

I think this has become pretty much a common business practice for businesses nowadays... It helps the US company stay ahead of foreign competition...
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20 % OF NEW CAR sales in EUROPE are EVs. The US is at 7% I feeel that we are the backward ones.
The US isn't Europe. Completely different transportation issues, distances traveled, etc...
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Actually, I have the maximum that I can afford and for the spaces that I have to park them.
So that's Zero, right?
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So that's Zero, right?
Do as I say.....not as I do?
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