[Bill-n-Brillo]

Snopes has always seemed to me to be a reliable source of info for debunking (or not!) off-the-wall e-mails that get circulated, rumors, and the like. I've used it numerous times.

Bill

[Hal :-)]

Originally Posted by mrdills

I love who is backing this site, George Soros himself the Uber-leftest Billionaire of the Democratic Party, what a surprise

Good read until I hit this roadblock. Geez, it's hard to keep an open mind here in The Villages. Most of what gets through seems one-sided.

I always check Snopes and Factcheck, then just a simple Google search with keywords.

I find the viral emails and post like this are always self-interest propaganda. I try to think for myself, but I know many people are being manipulated since they actually have little interest.

[Bexter]

Use it. Like it. Reliable.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

This statement is utterly false and is a good reason why an award winning web site like snopes exists.
The snopes web site is (and always has been) a completely independent, self-sufficient entity wholly owned by its operators, Barbara and David Mikkelson, and funded through advertising revenues. Neither the site nor its operators has ever received monies from (or been engaged in any business or editorial relationship with), any sponsor, investor, partner, political party, religious group, business organization, government agency, or any other outside group or organization.

I just snoped George Soros and found the above information on Snopes. It also said that Barbara Mikkelson is a Canadian. Go Canuck, (not that it means a darn thing if she is a Canadian citizen, but it makes me smile)!

[bonrich]

I was emailed this article. Always concerned about using one source to debunk something. Concerned that it just could be wrong.......
Sorry about the length of the post

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Subject: Fw: Snopes
WOW I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS--SEVERAL TIMES I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOME ONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID IT WAS FALSE--GUESS WE WASTED OUR TIME HUH!!!!


SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ
Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes. I thought that was odd. Check this out.
Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Courts Kagan
We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes!
Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?
We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to be financed by Soros!
Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of Obama!
In our Search for the truth department, we find what I have suspected on many occasions.
I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?
Yep you got it; Snopes Lied!
Everyone of those dockets are there.
So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:
Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets:
The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.
I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.
I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really shocking.
Thank You, I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I doubt it.
That being said, Ill bet you didn't know this:
Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his citizenship.
Now she may help rule on them.
Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on and on. Once again the US Senate sold us out!
know we know why Obama nominated Elana Kagan for the Supreme Court.
Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.
She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.
He owed her big time.
All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard.
It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?
The American people mean nothing any longer.
It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect someone who really has no true right to even be there.
Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:
You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?
Elana Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!
Check out these examples:
Search
Search
Search
If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.
However, if you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the U.S. Constitution; by all means, PASS it ON!
There truly is tyranny afoot.










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[Taltarzac725]

In response to the e-mail to Snopes, there does not seem to be anything to the charge that Elena Kagan was acting as Barack Obama's private attorney in the birthing matters. She was acting as Solicitor General for a sitting President.


Elena Kagan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check out the portion about Solicitor General-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solicit..._United_States

The Solicitor General is the lawyer for the Federal Government which I guess would include the President of the US.

From the Wikipedia article on Solicitor General-- "The United States Solicitor General is the person appointed to represent the federal government of the United States before the Supreme Court of the United States."

[natickdan]

I've used snopes for years and I've found it to be a useful tool to check rumors. I also subscribe to their email program that contain a list of newer rumors and identifies them as true or false.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by natickdan

I've used snopes for years and I've found it to be a useful tool to check rumors. I also subscribe to their email program that contain a list of newer rumors and identifies them as true or false.

Did not know about their e-mail program. Good to know. I suppose that will protect us from all the tinfoil hat wearing minions? I may wait a few months though to sign up. Too much going on in the little homestead.

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by bonrich

I was emailed this article. Always concerned about using one source to debunk something. Concerned that it just could be wrong.......
Sorry about the length of the post

Subject: Fw: Snopes
WOW I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS--SEVERAL TIMES I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOME ONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID IT WAS FALSE--GUESS WE WASTED OUR TIME HUH!!!!

SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ
Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes. I thought that was odd. Check this out.
Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Courts Kagan
We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes!
Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?
We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to be financed by Soros!
Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of Obama!
In our Search for the truth department, we find what I have suspected on many occasions.
I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?
Yep you got it; Snopes Lied!
Everyone of those dockets are there.
So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:
Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets:
The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.
I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.
I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really shocking.
Thank You, I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I doubt it.
That being said, Ill bet you didn't know this:
Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his citizenship.
Now she may help rule on them.
Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on and on. Once again the US Senate sold us out!
know we know why Obama nominated Elana Kagan for the Supreme Court.
Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.
She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.
He owed her big time.
All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard.
It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?
The American people mean nothing any longer.
It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect someone who really has no true right to even be there.
Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:
You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?
Elana Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!
Check out these examples:
Search
Search
Search
If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.
However, if you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the U.S. Constitution; by all means, PASS it ON!
There truly is tyranny afoot.

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I also got the above email a long time ago. I used Factcheck.org to help me debunk the ca ca in the email that was discrediting snopes.com

I use Snopes almost every day. I don't hesitate to reply to the garbage emails that I get from people I know well. I always start off with the pleasantries and then I provide them with the Snopes page link that directly addresses the email they sent me. I really don't want to lose friends, but I just can't let the passing on of this kind of garbage to go unchecked. I've got to at least try. Sometimes, I even do a "Reply All" if I keep getting unchecked stuff from the same email-er. That usually gets their attention.

Factcheck.org is a good site for checking mostly political stuff.

Xavier

[BobKat1]

Originally Posted by Xavier

I also got the above email a long time ago. I used Factcheck.org to help me debunk the ca ca in the email that was discrediting snopes.com

I use Snopes almost every day. I don't hesitate to reply to the garbage emails that I get from people I know well. I always start off with the pleasantries and then I provide them with the Snopes page link that directly addresses the email they sent me. I really don't want to lose friends, but I just can't let the passing on of this kind of garbage to go unchecked. I've got to at least try. Sometimes, I even do a "Reply All" if I keep getting unchecked stuff from the same email-er. That usually gets their attention.

Factcheck.org is a good site for checking mostly political stuff.

Xavier

I do the same. If history is any indication these types of emails from ALL sources will be on the increase in the coming months.

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Did not know about their e-mail program. Good to know. I suppose that will protect us from all the tinfoil hat wearing minions? I may wait a few months though to sign up. Too much going on in the little homestead.

It is a weekly newsletter. It links you to the latest rumors - true or false. You can always just delete it if you are too busy to read it.

I look at some of the new entries and when I get a email that refers to them, I send a note back to the sender with false and a link to the Snopes entry. I do not send it to everyone on their CC list. That is up to the original sender. I probably do not know all of the CCs and I don't want to start getting notes from them.

[loweglor]

Once again negative information has been disseminated about the PRESIDENT of the United States by someone who, obviously, does selective reading. If that person had truly done research and had not been so willing to accept the negativity, that person would have found out that the docket items in question revealed that NONE of the nine entries had anything at all to do with cases challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States: in fact, most of them actually stemmed from cases which were originally filed against the federal government long before the presidential candidacy of Barack Obama (but which since “rolled over” to the current administration. Check out the 9 cases for yourself:

Gary William HOLT, Defendant-Appellant. No. 04-15848

Jerome Julius Brown v. BUSH et al. Case 1:08-cv-00013-UNA (filed 1/4/08)

Louis Edward Lutz, Jr. Case 1:07-cv-03280-NGG-LB, a truck driver who was employed as a U.S. Army civilian contractor in Iraq between 2004 to 2006 (long before the advent of the Obama administration) and whose case has to do with combatant status of civilian contractors and employees working in Iraq and Afghanistan, not presidential eligibility issues.

Two filings involving Abdul Hamid Abdul Salam Al-Ghizzawi, Misc. No. 08-442 (05-cv-02378, a Libyan citizen seeking release from his incarceration at Guantanamo Bay Naval Station. He was finally released in March 2010, after seven years of imprisonment.

Three filings involving Jamal Kiyemba, Case # 1:05-cv-01509-RMU, a Ugandan who was incarcerated at Guantanamo Bay Naval Station for four years beginning in 2002.

The Real Truth About Obama, Inc., Case 3:08-cv-00483-JRS, a case which, although the plaintiff’s name might suggest a presidential eligibility issue, is actually a challenge to three Federal Election Commission regulations which the plaintiff organization alleges are “unconstitutionally overboard” and thereby infringed their right “to disseminate information about presidential candidate Senator Obama’s position on abortion.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by loweglor

Once again negative information has been disseminated about the PRESIDENT of the United States by someone who, obviously, does selective reading. If that person had truly done research and had not been so willing to accept the negativity, that person would have found out that the docket items in question revealed that NONE of the nine entries had anything at all to do with cases challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States: in fact, most of them actually stemmed from cases which were originally filed against the federal government long before the presidential candidacy of Barack Obama (but which since “rolled over” to the current administration. Check out the 9 cases for yourself:

Gary William HOLT, Defendant-Appellant. No. 04-15848

Jerome Julius Brown v. BUSH et al. Case 1:08-cv-00013-UNA (filed 1/4/08)

Louis Edward Lutz, Jr. Case 1:07-cv-03280-NGG-LB, a truck driver who was employed as a U.S. Army civilian contractor in Iraq between 2004 to 2006 (long before the advent of the Obama administration) and whose case has to do with combatant status of civilian contractors and employees working in Iraq and Afghanistan, not presidential eligibility issues.

Two filings involving Abdul Hamid Abdul Salam Al-Ghizzawi, Misc. No. 08-442 (05-cv-02378, a Libyan citizen seeking release from his incarceration at Guantanamo Bay Naval Station. He was finally released in March 2010, after seven years of imprisonment.

Three filings involving Jamal Kiyemba, Case # 1:05-cv-01509-RMU, a Ugandan who was incarcerated at Guantanamo Bay Naval Station for four years beginning in 2002.

The Real Truth About Obama, Inc., Case 3:08-cv-00483-JRS, a case which, although the plaintiff’s name might suggest a presidential eligibility issue, is actually a challenge to three Federal Election Commission regulations which the plaintiff organization alleges are “unconstitutionally overboard” and thereby infringed their right “to disseminate information about presidential candidate Senator Obama’s position on abortion.

That's good to know. Hopefully, this thread will not become political and moved into the political forum. It is about Snopes.com not about politics. Here is another source for that e-mail's lack of veracity-- http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/bar...Connection.htm

[Mikitv]

I have used it for years. I make sure when somebody sends me a email that has bad information, I check it out and send the results back to them.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Mikitv

I have used it for years. I make sure when somebody sends me a email that has bad information, I check it out and send the results back to them.

I have been familiar with Snopes for maybe a decade. Just have not had much call to use it over the past few years. Since I moved from Palm Harbor, FL to the Villages, that is.