[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

"We are changing the earth right now" does apply to the things like Trash Mountains and Highway Litter. However, there is no climate emergency. We are just enhancing our climate with more plant food (CO2) and warming that is so tiny it can not be measured. For those who claim we are heating the planet, please tell me how much man-made CO2 altered earth's temperature last year.

The last 7 years are the hottest on earth.....from records dating back to 1850. 2020 ties with 2016 as the world's hottest year on record. (note see....CBC news reports)

July 2022 was the world's 6th hottest July on record (note see......US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)

[Nellmack]

Originally Posted by djplong

You don't see very much.

I'll answer your questions, though, and I'll be honest about them.

Yes, I drive an EV. While it DID cost more initially, I've saved a BUNDLE on fuel, insurance and maintenance. I honestly can't explain how I managed to save on insurance as most people pay MORE when they replace a 20 year old car with a new, more expensive one. Virtually everything about my car is recyclable. And I'm not worried about the battery dying since I still get almost the same range now as I did 4 1/2 years and 75,000 miles ago. Vehicle maintenance is almost non-existent. I've paid for tires and windshield washer fluid. I'm not lying - even my brakes are like new since my car does regenerative braking with the electric motor. I barely ever need the 'legacy' braking system.

Solar panels? Funny you should mention that. The recent passage of the Inflation Reduction Act combined with Putin's war in Ukraine that shot up natural gas prices around the world made solar an option for us. I signed the papers 3 days ago. Even though I use a LOT of electricity (even before I got an EV), I'd signed up for 'green' supplier plans. Combined with the trees on my lot, solar was a no-go. With the events I just mentioned, it just became cost effective. I'll be paying $245/mo on my solar loan for a system that will cover all my usage compared to $250-$535/mo for electricity BEFORE the price hikes that I'm about to see (and pay for until my system goes live - probably in the spring).

This past year, we had an energy audit done and had a lot of work performed on the house with a rebate from the gas company - and our natural gas usage (heat, hot water, oven) has gone down over 30%.

And I don't "condemn" people. Very often, people are using outdated information because, to be honest, things have been changing FAST - and you can't expect everyone to keep up on every development going on in so many places.

So if you're REALLY interested in learning "where we are" today and what's coming next, I'm more than happy to engage in a conversation.

Am I perfect? No. I'd LIKE to be able to replace my natural gas usage even though we just reduced it by quite a chunk - but that's out of the question for now. My electric bill had to take precedence.

I *suspect* your opinion of climate change activists is colored by the lens through which it's presented to you. And if that's all the information you have, then, to be honest, I don't blame you for having your opinion.

Thanks for the intelligent rational response to what appears to be the uninformed climate change attitude. Hey, also thanks for your effort working towards a reduced carbon footprint. Eventually most will gravitate towards your informed mind set. By "Eventually" I mean a long time from now. It's hard to change opinions of folks that are stuck with a that old mind set.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

I blame dog poop.

The truth there is that any dog flatulence associated with the dog poop would likely be like cattle flatulence which is known to affect climate change. Methane is a greenhouse gas from animals (mostly cattle) that has 28 times the warming potential as carbon dioxide (CO2). Buy, cows account for just 4% of all greenhouse gas produced by the US. (see.....UC Davis article "Cows and Climate Change).

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Nellmack

Thanks for the intelligent rational response to what appears to be the uninformed climate change attitude. Hey, also thanks for your effort working towards a reduced carbon footprint. Eventually most will gravitate towards your informed mind set. By "Eventually" I mean a long time from now. It's hard to change opinions of folks that are stuck with a that old mind set.

Yes, there is "the uninformed climate change attitude".

You hear it from the media, politicians, and socialists every day.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by djplong

No, that was a drought that would have been weathered were it not for the disastrous farming techniques of the time that stripped the land of it's ability to hold together.

Discoveries made during the Dust Bowl on how to farm land more responsibly are still being used to this day.

I enthusiastically concur with the post.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The truth there is that any dog flatulence associated with the dog poop would likely be like cattle flatulence which is known to affect climate change. Methane is a greenhouse gas from animals (mostly cattle) that has 28 times the warming potential as carbon dioxide (CO2). Buy, cows account for just 4% of all greenhouse gas produced by the US. (see.....UC Davis article "Cows and Climate Change).

Save the planet. Eat more beef.

[Taltarzac725]

6 Claims Made by Climate Change Skeptics—and How to Respond | Rainforest Alliance

Looks like a good source for information about the facts.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Forget cardiac surgery, I wouldn't want him for my electrician. It's been 45 years, but I believe the equation is V=I*R (Ohm's law), where I is amperage and R is resistance. As far as I remember, current and amps are the same, the latter being a measurement of the former.

True that Amps or Amperage is the unit to measure the I (current in ohms law). Ohms law is easiest understood (by myself) as ...... the current in a circuit (in amps) which is given the symbol ( I ) is equal to the voltage (symbol E for electromotive force) in units named volts divided by the resistance in units of olms ( with a symbol of R)

or.......within a circuit.......I = E / R or in units...... amps = volts / ohms

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by Steve

This isn't my list. It's from WorldAtlas.com. And we're talking about "Florida Hurricanes" specifically. Please keep on point.

If you are going to talk weather you just can't exclude the whole east coast. Weather is generated by the warming of the tropics and steered by the gulf stream

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The last 7 years are the hottest on earth.....from records dating back to 1850. 2020 ties with 2016 as the world's hottest year on record. (note see....CBC news reports)

July 2022 was the world's 6th hottest July on record (note see......US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)

I heard that it snowed here on 4/71841.

[benegan66]

In the 1960s and 70s we called it water and air pollution. Pete Seager was sailing up and down the Hudson River to bring the pollution to our attention. Does anyone remember the Ohio river catching fire, love canal. Then someone decided to do something so they and what we used to call “Green Day” and that eventually turned into climate change. The original idea was to clean up the air and water and people decided they could make a lot of money off scaring the crap out of everyone and that today folks is behind the climate hesteria today . Take anyway you want but the air and rivers are cleaner. The rest of it is to make money for someone.

[dougjb]

I've never understood why some people are so intent on denying that climate change is happening as a direct result of human activity. There are less than ten legitimate scientists (real scientists with degrees) worldwide who subscribe to this denial. But, the vast super majority of climate scientologists (real scientists with degrees and experience) are in accord that human activity is causing climate change to a degree that it may not be stopped.

As rational human beings, we can take steps to slow the progress of climate change ... or we can stick our heads in the sand ...which may be the only place that is not subject to climate change.

So why are so many Villagers intent on denying real science? Do they hate their grandchildren so much as to create and leave them an uninhabitable planet?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by dougjb

I've never understood why some people are so intent on denying that climate change is happening as a direct result of human activity. There are less than ten legitimate scientists (real scientists with degrees) worldwide who subscribe to this denial. But, the vast super majority of climate scientologists (real scientists with degrees and experience) are in accord that human activity is causing climate change to a degree that it may not be stopped.

As rational human beings, we can take steps to slow the progress of climate change ... or we can stick our heads in the sand ...which may be the only place that is not subject to climate change.

So why are so many Villagers intent on denying real science? Do they hate their grandchildren so much as to create and leave them an uninhabitable planet?

Less than 10 scientists???? I'm not sure whether that statement is delusional or psychotic

And the planet will be uninhabitable in the lifetime of our grandchildren??? I think I'm leaning toward psychotic.

Please, please tell me that no one with more than 2 functional neurons would ever believe that.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by dougjb

I've never understood why some people are so intent on denying that climate change is happening as a direct result of human activity. There are less than ten legitimate scientists (real scientists with degrees) worldwide who subscribe to this denial. But, the vast super majority of climate scientologists (real scientists with degrees and experience) are in accord that human activity is causing climate change to a degree that it may not be stopped.

As rational human beings, we can take steps to slow the progress of climate change ... or we can stick our heads in the sand ...which may be the only place that is not subject to climate change.

So why are so many Villagers intent on denying real science? Do they hate their grandchildren so much as to create and leave them an uninhabitable planet?

Well said, or written.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The last 7 years are the hottest on earth.....from records dating back to 1850. 2020 ties with 2016 as the world's hottest year on record. (note see....CBC news reports)

July 2022 was the world's 6th hottest July on record (note see......US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)

Nice non-sequitur... 7 years means nothing in the scheme of things...