[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

6 Claims Made by Climate Change Skeptics—and How to Respond | Rainforest Alliance

Looks like a good source for information about the facts.

Yeah, they are completely unbiased...

The very first sentence of the article states: "It’s hard to believe, but apparently more than a few climate-deniers still roam our ever-heating planet."

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Well said, or written.

Which part?? The delusional part or the psychotic part? My friend, please read again the nonsense that you seem to have agreed with.
You can't possibly concur that out of millions of scientists, only 10 are "deniers" Neither can you believe that the world will be uninhabitable within this century

[benj]

Good thing there was global warming in New York or it would still be under 2 miles of ice.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by benj

Good thing there was global warming in New York or it would still be under 2 miles of ice.

Yep. Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble both owned gas guzzlers

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yep. Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble both owned gas guzzlers

Yabba-Dabba-Diesel!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Forget cardiac surgery, I wouldn't want him for my electrician. It's been 45 years, but I believe the equation is V=I*R (Ohm's law), where I is amperage and R is resistance. As far as I remember, current and amps are the same, the latter being a measurement of the former.

Also, music is mathematics. Which he states is science. Here's mathematics:

IF [music = mathematics]
ANDIF [mathematics = science]
THEN [music = science]

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by dougjb

I've never understood why some people are so intent on denying that climate change is happening as a direct result of human activity. There are less than ten legitimate scientists (real scientists with degrees) worldwide who subscribe to this denial. But, the vast super majority of climate scientologists (real scientists with degrees and experience) are in accord that human activity is causing climate change to a degree that it may not be stopped.

As rational human beings, we can take steps to slow the progress of climate change ... or we can stick our heads in the sand ...which may be the only place that is not subject to climate change.

So why are so many Villagers intent on denying real science? Do they hate their grandchildren so much as to create and leave them an uninhabitable planet?

The thought that billions of humans and their industry could actually effect the planet goes against their politics and/or religion. They turn to their chosen religious or political icons who pander to them, telling them what they want to hear, how smart they are and good they are and not to believe the global conspiracy. Accept the truth? They really can't handle the truth. They, in some cases, hope they will be dead before they are forced to acknowledge they were wrong.
Or, they really do hate their grand children that much.
🌎☀🌋🌑

[TrapX]

When your electric car can drive across country without days of delay charging...
When battery technology improves so that it doesn't create immense amounts of pollution to produce them, or dispose of them... When the energy needed to acquire the raw materials, then build, and finally retire, a windmill (or solar panel) is finally less than what it produces...
When the power grid can handle charging cars without fear of blackouts...
When the electric grid no longer needs coal powered power plants...
When the payback for a solar system is viable without other taxpayer's money...
When all solar systems can cope with weeks of continuous snow, clouds, and storms and still work 100% off grid...
When you live without petroleum related products like road asphalt (back to dirt roads), plastics, lubricants, pharmaceuticals, semiconductors, window screens, vinyl (siding, windows, soffit vents), roof shingles...
When you no longer need commercial farms for food planted and harvested with diesel tractors (and everybody is self sufficient with chickens, cows, and farms in their back yard) (apartments and cities suddenly don't get food from closed farms) and you have the time to tend to all that stuff...
When you throw out your gas stove, propane grill, backup generator, furnace, diesel construction machines (crane, backhoe, grader, plow, cement truck, dump truck)...
When you never again can have cataract surgery using replacement plastic lens, or get an IV delivered via a plastic line, or an injection from a plastic syringe...
When you can buy a cell phone, appliances, furniture, TVs, and nearly ever other device that is housed in a plastic case or has internal plastic parts...
When you have a viable alternative to tractor trailers, railroad engines, cargo ships...
When the cost for any of these alternatives is lower than today...

THEN come talk to me about how your "solutions" effect life in future centuries, and be sure to cover how life would be so much better and affordable right away... should fossil fuels get banned in the name of climate change.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

The thought that billions of humans and their industry could actually effect the planet goes against their politics and/or religion. They turn to their chosen religious or political icons who pander to them, telling them what they want to hear, how smart they are and good they are and not to believe the global conspiracy. Accept the truth? They really can't handle the truth. They, in some cases, hope they will be dead before they are forced to acknowledge they were wrong.
Or, they really do hate their grand children that much.
🌎☀🌋🌑

Absolutely agree. They cannot handle the truth that global warming has nothing to do with human activity. And they hate their grandchildren so much that they want to bankrupt the world combatting a myth.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by dougjb

I've never understood why some people are so intent on denying that climate change is happening as a direct result of human activity. There are less than ten legitimate scientists (real scientists with degrees) worldwide who subscribe to this denial. But, the vast super majority of climate scientologists (real scientists with degrees and experience) are in accord that human activity is causing climate change to a degree that it may not be stopped.

As rational human beings, we can take steps to slow the progress of climate change ... or we can stick our heads in the sand ...which may be the only place that is not subject to climate change.

So why are so many Villagers intent on denying real science? Do they hate their grandchildren so much as to create and leave them an uninhabitable planet?

Sometimes you just have to let people be wrong. You know as well as I, we have some so called cable tv personalities who say things to get attention and ratings who I’m convinced don’t believe their own words themselves. Finally, the World Wide Web is both a blessing and curse at the same time. One way to handle all the information available on climate changes is to research several credible “sites” (not just one or two) and use facts not opinions to draw your own conclusions. Finally, leave politics out of your findings and conclusions. It’s the latter that is the most difficult to accomplish.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Absolutely agree. They cannot handle the truth that global warming has nothing to do with human activity. And they hate their grandchildren so much that they want to bankrupt the world combatting a myth.

[nick demis]

Simple answer, I don't give a damn.

[chet2020]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

It is???????? So, we have data on hurricane severity for say the last 5,000 years???? Because it would take that long to have an accurate assessment on a hurricane severity trend----looking at the last 20 years is completely useless.

We have reasonably good data going back to 1950. Of course data can be interpreted differently, but the link below is NASA's interpretation. Summary statement from paper:

In Brief:
Due to global warming, global climate models predict hurricanes will likely cause more intense rainfall and have an increased coastal flood risk due to higher storm surge caused by rising seas. Additionally, the global frequency of storms may decrease or remain unchanged, but hurricanes that form are more likely to become intense.

A Force of Nature: Hurricanes in a Changing Climate – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by chet2020

We have reasonably good data going back to 1950. Of course data can be interpreted differently, but the link below is NASA's interpretation. Summary statement from paper:

In Brief:
Due to global warming, global climate models predict hurricanes will likely cause more intense rainfall and have an increased coastal flood risk due to higher storm surge caused by rising seas. Additionally, the global frequency of storms may decrease or remain unchanged, but hurricanes that form are more likely to become intense.

A Force of Nature: Hurricanes in a Changing Climate – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

My bad. 70 years out of the last 100,000 is much, much more valuable than 20 years

[Steve]

Originally Posted by chet2020

We have reasonably good data going back to 1950. Of course data can be interpreted differently, but the link below is NASA's interpretation. Summary statement from paper:

In Brief:
Due to global warming, global climate models predict hurricanes will likely cause more intense rainfall and have an increased coastal flood risk due to higher storm surge caused by rising seas. Additionally, the global frequency of storms may decrease or remain unchanged, but hurricanes that form are more likely to become intense.

A Force of Nature: Hurricanes in a Changing Climate – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

But keep in mind, according to NASA's own study which was completed in 2000 but just recently released, human activity is NOT the cause of "Global Warming". According to NASA, the Earth's axis is shifting slightly AND the Earth's path around the sun is getting closer to the sun. Carbon emissions, according to NASA, are not the cause of "Global Warming" or "Climate Change".