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Old 03-29-2023, 12:29 PM
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Hey Kenswing, have we had a resurrection of an old P.I.A. from about a year or so ago? Almost the same exact words being typed by this person as the old member who mystically evaporated from TOTV'S?

His gator words and general knowledge and ability to skirt the rules and burn new members with his or her replies are just about the same. What say you?

Please tell me it has not been allowed to reincarnate!

P.S. Don't worry about gators, respect them and stay away from the damn ponds. Easy.
But, but, but......what about the gators that wind up in someone's pool after tearing through the screen of the lanai and the gator who parks themselves by your front door? This has happened, maybe not here in The Villages but elsewhere and it can very easily happen here too. So........staying clear of the pond's edges is not the answer all the time.
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Problem is....if the gator was sunning itself on my front door step, am I supposed to check every single time I open my front door to see if there is a gator waiting for me there? I don't think so. THAT is the problem with having so many gators in our community. Thankfully, I do not live near water so the chance is more slim that I would find a gator waiting for me on my front door step. BUT......there still is that possibility.
When I open my door, front, back, closet or bathroom, I always look to see where I'm going and make sure there is nothing to block my way, cause me to slip, trip, or bite me (spider in a web or alligators). Unless you are blind, I'll bet you look where you're going. Always.
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[QUOTE=coffeebean;2202548 So........staying clear of the pond's edges is not the answer all the time.[/QUOTE]

Just 99.⁹99999999% of the time.

PS. If an alligator is ever in my pool, you won't have to worry about it at all. Unless you sneak in to skinny dip at night, that is.
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When I open my door, front, back, closet or bathroom, I always look to see where I'm going and make sure there is nothing to block my way, cause me to slip, trip, or bite me (spider in a web or alligators). Unless you are blind, I'll bet you look where you're going. Always.
Of course I do. BUT......I don't check my front "porch" before I open the door. The door is open, then I look to see where I'm going. If I have a gator visitor waiting for me, at that point it is too late. I do always look through the glass to see who the person is standing at my front door when the door bell rings though.
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Of course I do. BUT......I don't check my front "porch" before I open the door. The door is open, then I look to see where I'm going. If I have a gator visitor waiting for me, at that point it is too late. I do always look through the glass to see who the person is standing at my front door when the door bell rings though.
That's the problem! Gator can't reach the doorbell. Put a Whoopi cushion under the mat and you'll hear him arrive.
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As one who is familiar with the alligators, you do not have to worry about them if you use a little common sense. My wife and I just came back from a 5 mile kayak paddle down the Silver Springs river. The river is narrow and we saw numerous alligators up close who completely ignored us. On one occasion the current took me within a paddle-length distance from a big boy but he was unperturbed and ignored me. They would rather eat something smaller than humans as in birds, fish, & small mammals (like people's pets) & usually only eat once per week.

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As one who is familiar with the alligators, you do not have to worry about them if you use a little common sense. On one occasion the current took me within a paddle-length distance from a big boy but he was unperturbed and ignored me. They would rather eat something smaller than humans as in birds, fish, & small mammals (like people's pets) & usually only eat once per week.
You say that they would rather eat something smaller and usually eat once per week.

I agree that they would rather eat something smaller but that doesn't mean they always eat something smaller. And how do you know when they have last eaten? Can you tell how hungry they are by looking at them?

And if someone is using common sense, I don't recommend kayaking down a narrow river with numerous alligators in the water!
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As one who is familiar with the alligators, you do not have to worry about them if you use a little common sense. My wife and I just came back from a 5 mile kayak paddle down the Silver Springs river. The river is narrow and we saw numerous alligators up close who completely ignored us. On one occasion the current took me within a paddle-length distance from a big boy but he was unperturbed and ignored me. They would rather eat something smaller than humans as in birds, fish, & small mammals (like people's pets) & usually only eat once per week.
If I don't need to be concerned, why does everyone say "use a little common sense"? How does that apply to grand kids? How does that apply to a senior with onset dementia? What about an elderly person who has lost mobility and doesn't realize it?

How do those alligators in an isolated river compared to alligators here that are surrounded by people all the time? They are getting accustomed to people daily, rather than remaining afraid of us. Often exposed to people fishing, who are throwing back alligator food? To clueless people who throw food to them. Who see uninformed people at the water's edge.

Glad you are 100% in tune with your environment. Perhaps look at the bigger picture here and realize many others are not like you.
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*Maybe* it was necessary to remove the one alligator who *might* now see humans as food but it certainly wasn't necessary to remove them all. (Note that they removed alligators from the entire community; there were not four alligators in one pond). The needless removal, and likely destruction, of a native animal behaving naturally is sad. I really hate the idea but maybe it is necessary to put fences around all the ponds to keep the foolish people away.

We enjoy looking for alligators in the ponds here.

Things to learn:
- There are alligators in the fresh water in Florida
- Walking your small dog at the edge of the water is dangerous
- Standing and watching an alligator swim across the pond towards you and your dog is a really bad idea
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Boy killed by alligator in Tampa.
Missing 2-year-old Florida boy found dead in alligator's mouth, police say - CBS News

To the few who think death by alligator is ok... I call b.s. One death is too many. It's only time until it happens here.
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Boy killed by alligator in Tampa.
Missing 2-year-old Florida boy found dead in alligator's mouth, police say - CBS News

To the few who think death by alligator is ok... I call b.s. One death is too many. It's only time until it happens here.
The boys father was charged with his murder. Exact cause of death hasn't been determined.
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The boys father was charged with his murder. Exact cause of death hasn't been determined.
The boy was found with his head in the alligator's mouth. I'd say that was fatal. The alligator killed him.

Not sure how anyone can say the cause of death wasn't determined. Presenting that "spin" doesn't help your credibility.
The father was charged because he failed to watch over the child. That led to the boy wandering away. The alligator saw an easy meal.

If alligators were removed here, and a similar scenario happened here, the boy would still be alive.
So tell me why it's such a bad concept to make things safer here. Oh, and there was no lightning, dogs, cars, etc. Stay on topic and answer why removing alligators won't make it safer here.
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The boy was found with his head in the alligator's mouth. I'd say that was fatal. The alligator killed him.

Not sure how anyone can say the cause of death wasn't determined. Presenting that "spin" doesn't help your credibility.
The father was charged because he failed to watch over the child. That led to the boy wandering away. The alligator saw an easy meal.

If alligators were removed here, and a similar scenario happened here, the boy would still be alive.
So tell me why it's such a bad concept to make things safer here. Oh, and there was no lightning, dogs, cars, etc. Stay on topic and answer why removing alligators won't make it safer here.
The alligators do not need to be removed and they will not be removed. The topic is ridiculous. f you don't like gators move North!
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The boy was found with his head in the alligator's mouth. I'd say that was fatal. The alligator killed him.

Not sure how anyone can say the cause of death wasn't determined. Presenting that "spin" doesn't help your credibility.
The father was charged because he failed to watch over the child. That led to the boy wandering away. The alligator saw an easy meal.

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Do you have a source for your assertions that the alligator caused the death or that the father was charged because he failed to watch over the child? Perhaps you were in contact with the alligator and that's how you know the child was seen as an easy meal?

Why in the world do you live here if you are so fixated on alligators and so afraid of them? Why would you still be here knowing you are surrounded by what you consider to be such a dangerous animal?
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Boy killed by alligator in Tampa.
Missing 2-year-old Florida boy found dead in alligator's mouth, police say - CBS News

To the few who think death by alligator is ok... I call b.s. One death is too many. It's only time until it happens here.
You’re such a troll. Did you even read the article? The mother was murdered in their apartment. The son was missing. Later found in the mouth of an alligator. Father has been charged with two counts of first degree murder after showing up at the hospital with cuts all over him. I hope you come back when it’s determined that the child was stabbed to death like his mother was or that the father threw the body in the pond to get rid of the evidence. You are truly a disgusting human being for trying to push your agenda over such a tragedy.
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