[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Easy solutions. Remove the moon (to eliminate tides) and stop building were we know the oceans have been rising for the past 350 years -- and will continue to rise until Mother Nature says it's time for the next Ice Age. But don't worry, Obama has 2 sea-side mansions, who will no doubt prevent the seas form rising any further.

News flash......... I am in agreement with the CONCEPT that it is a terrible idea to build near an ocean coastline. In Oregon, they have a law against building within 1/2 mile of the ocean. I would go for 3 miles if I were in charge.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The only time I have been interested in 11,000 BC was for 2 old movies about that time period. One had some foxy-loxie hot female movie star in it......It's only redeeming value.

Unfortunately they don't teach climate change in schools anymore, because the data shows temperatures and CO2 levels were much higher in the past.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

News flash......... I am in agreement with the CONCEPT that it is a terrible idea to build near an ocean coastline. In Oregon, they have a law against building within 1/2 mile of the ocean. I would go for 3 miles if I were in charge.

The key against hurricane flooding is to stay above 30 feet above sea level, because large Cat 5 storms can raise seas up to 30 feet. And even then, you need to account for high tides -- and of course slow sea level rise. Then when the next Ice Age starts, it will be a free-for-all to buy up new land as the seas go down 400 feet.

[Byte1]

So, once again how can man prevent volcanoes from erupting? Perhaps, human sacrifices? How did "man" cause Pompeii? Was it the lack of human sacrifices? How about the eruptions in Hawaii or the Philippines? I am not going to argue/debate the rising and lowering of the oceans, but I am interested in how anyone can be arrogant enough to think that mankind is instrumental in changing the climate. Was Earth meant to last forever? Is there any reason to care whether or not Earth is still here after the eventual extinction of man? If the oceans rise ten feet in our lifetime, would we really do anything other than move further in land? New Orleans has a lower elevation than the water bordering it. What do we do? We build walls and pump the water out of the city. Does that make sense when there is so much more land mass in the country? Is this how man fights climate change?
Climate change is a naturally recurring cycle and until someone can give me evidence that mankind has influenced the rotation of climate cycles, I will consider it arrogant to think that we can change it in any way. Maybe we can push our moon away from Earth and change the strength of tides?
Sorry, but I am not concerned with a few inches of coastline loss in my lifetime. Do I care about the future of mankind and the loss of land mass in our country? Nope, because I will be dust for a long time as will my children and grandchildren way before there is any threat to man's existence in this world. So, once you all figure out how to change the weather, please raise the temps in the mountains up North, because I miss the mountains but hate cold weather. A year round average of 75-85 degrees would suit me just fine. And stop planting so many flowering plants because pollen is much worse than carbon emissions on my breathing.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

So, once again how can man prevent volcanoes from erupting? Perhaps, human sacrifices? How did "man" cause Pompeii? Was it the lack of human sacrifices? How about the eruptions in Hawaii or the Philippines? I am not going to argue/debate the rising and lowering of the oceans, but I am interested in how anyone can be arrogant enough to think that mankind is instrumental in changing the climate. Was Earth meant to last forever? Is there any reason to care whether or not Earth is still here after the eventual extinction of man? If the oceans rise ten feet in our lifetime, would we really do anything other than move further in land? New Orleans has a lower elevation than the water bordering it. What do we do? We build walls and pump the water out of the city. Does that make sense when there is so much more land mass in the country? Is this how man fights climate change?
Climate change is a naturally recurring cycle and until someone can give me evidence that mankind has influenced the rotation of climate cycles, I will consider it arrogant to think that we can change it in any way. Maybe we can push our moon away from Earth and change the strength of tides?
Sorry, but I am not concerned with a few inches of coastline loss in my lifetime. Do I care about the future of mankind and the loss of land mass in our country? Nope, because I will be dust for a long time as will my children and grandchildren way before there is any threat to man's existence in this world. So, once you all figure out how to change the weather, please raise the temps in the mountains up North, because I miss the mountains but hate cold weather. A year round average of 75-85 degrees would suit me just fine. And stop planting so many flowering plants because pollen is much worse than carbon emissions on my breathing.

I have given EVIDENCE before but to NO avail. Some people will never change their minds despite what Scientific experts have to say because they have made up their minds. And they MUST feel somehow that they know more than Scientists that have gone to school on the subject at a graduate, masters, and Ph.D. level.
......But, here goes for the umpteenth time.....
......If you go to Google or Wikipedia and put in, "Surveys of Scientists' views on Climate Change". You can find that in 2016 there is a 97% consensus that humans are causing recent Global Warming.
.........In a 2021 study, the consensus was more than 99%.

I have done my part to improve general local understanding of this subject. It has become clear to me that many in TV Land do NOT believe in SCIENTISTS. And they are getting their understanding from some form of propagandistic mind-control that is rolling in from their TVs or very unusual media. I am REALLY saddened about the decrease in knowledge among my fellow TV Landers.......really saddened!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I have given EVIDENCE before but to NO avail. Some people will never change their minds despite what Scientific experts have to say because they have made up their minds. and they MUST feel somehow that they know more than Scientists that have gone to school on the subject at a graduate, masters, and Ph.D. level.
......But, here goes for the umpteenth time.....
......If you go to Google or Wikipedia and put in, "Surveys of Scientists' views on Climate Change". You can find that in 2016 there is a 97% consensus that humans are causing recent Global Warming.
.........In a 2021 study, the consensus was more than 99%.

I have done my part to improve general local understanding of this subject. It has become clear to me that many in TV Land do NOT believe in SCIENTISTS. And they are getting their understanding from some form of propagandistic mind-control that is rolling in from their TVs or very unusual media. I am REALLY saddened about the decrease in knowledge among my fellow TV Landers.......really saddened!

And how many times have I made it clear that those scientists are bought and paid for by government grants, university tenure and journal publishers. And even that consensus is closer to 80%.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Byte1

So, once again how can man prevent volcanoes from erupting? Perhaps, human sacrifices? How did "man" cause Pompeii? Was it the lack of human sacrifices? How about the eruptions in Hawaii or the Philippines? I am not going to argue/debate the rising and lowering of the oceans, but I am interested in how anyone can be arrogant enough to think that mankind is instrumental in changing the climate. Was Earth meant to last forever? Is there any reason to care whether or not Earth is still here after the eventual extinction of man? If the oceans rise ten feet in our lifetime, would we really do anything other than move further in land? New Orleans has a lower elevation than the water bordering it. What do we do? We build walls and pump the water out of the city. Does that make sense when there is so much more land mass in the country? Is this how man fights climate change?
Climate change is a naturally recurring cycle and until someone can give me evidence that mankind has influenced the rotation of climate cycles, I will consider it arrogant to think that we can change it in any way. Maybe we can push our moon away from Earth and change the strength of tides?
Sorry, but I am not concerned with a few inches of coastline loss in my lifetime. Do I care about the future of mankind and the loss of land mass in our country? Nope, because I will be dust for a long time as will my children and grandchildren way before there is any threat to man's existence in this world. So, once you all figure out how to change the weather, please raise the temps in the mountains up North, because I miss the mountains but hate cold weather. A year round average of 75-85 degrees would suit me just fine. And stop planting so many flowering plants because pollen is much worse than carbon emissions on my breathing.

Sorry, but human sacrifice won't work here. After all, we would have to sacrifice a virgin, and at least according to the author of "Leisureville", we a fresh out of those.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I have given EVIDENCE before but to NO avail. Some people will never change their minds despite what Scientific experts have to say because they have made up their minds. And they MUST feel somehow that they know more than Scientists that have gone to school on the subject at a graduate, masters, and Ph.D. level.
......But, here goes for the umpteenth time.....
......If you go to Google or Wikipedia and put in, "Surveys of Scientists' views on Climate Change". You can find that in 2016 there is a 97% consensus that humans are causing recent Global Warming.
.........In a 2021 study, the consensus was more than 99%.

I have done my part to improve general local understanding of this subject. It has become clear to me that many in TV Land do NOT believe in SCIENTISTS. And they are getting their understanding from some form of propagandistic mind-control that is rolling in from their TVs or very unusual media. I am REALLY saddened about the decrease in knowledge among my fellow TV Landers.......really saddened!

And, for the umpteenth time, that 97% stat has been thoroughly debunked...

But keep bangin' that drum!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

And, for the umpteenth time, that 97% stat has been thoroughly debunked...

But keep bangin' that drum!

Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

The 99% number is wrong, ass well.

What that number means is that 97% (or 99%) of the scientists REFERRED to papers claiming climate change, possible only in their footnotes. NOT that they agreed with the findings...

Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes "common knowledge" to the uneducated...

No, as to your feeble attempt to draw conclusions from my statement about the 97/99% number? It's what you do.

News readers read what is put in front of them. I can show you videos of multiple talking heads repeating the EXACT SAME WORDS in an incorrect talking point. It happens all the time... Unfortunately, the gullible fall for it...

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

(Psst. You are correct. The deniers are wrong. Their cult will find any obscure, misleading, or invented phony facts or use any convoluted false logic to avoid having to face and accept the truth. They can't handle the truth. Reality of the worlds health as a result of human overpopulation and habitat destruction should be of great concern to everyone. But the deniers won't break step with their dogma. They will stay the course and never, ever take an honest look at, or honestly evaluate anything that doesn't support the cult agenda. They will never run out of arguments because they can make it up as they go along.
Don't be down hearted. Don't dispare. There are more like you, who know and try to spread truth. Many,many more.
Just thought you should know.)

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

ass well.

Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes "common knowledge" to the uneducated...

News readers read what is put in front of them. I can show you videos of multiple talking heads repeating the EXACT SAME WORDS in an incorrect talking point. It happens all the time... Unfortunately, the gullible fall for it...

OMG! My thoughts, exactly.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

You keep talking about Ian, what about all the other "killer" hurricanes that never strike land? That's what happens to most of them... Did you know that there were 14 named storms last year? 8 of them were hurricanes.

How many of them struck land? You have no idea, but you keep beating the "Ian the KILLER Hurricane" drum...

Oh, and what's this? 2022's hurricane season was LOWER than expected?

But that's unpossible! Everyone knows hurricanes are getting more frequent. Ian proved that, right? WRONG...

2022 Atlantic hurricane season ends, breaking the six-year streak of above-normal seasons - WUFT News

And Australia's Barrier reef? It's actually GROWING...

They've just had the LARGEST amount of growth in the last 36 years...

Parts of Australia'''s Great Barrier Reef show highest coral cover in 36 years | Reuters

Yes, this past summer was hotter than normal. But the summer of 2021 was milder than normal... Go figure...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

OMG! My thoughts, exactly.

Then stop falling for it!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, it is OVER 99% in the 2021 study to be more precise. And I am being told to believe a non-scientist over my lying eyes that see the same thing every time that I Google it. I guess Google and ALL the world's scientists have formed some sort of EVIL cabal to prevent the earth's inhabitants from learning the TRUTH......... that Global Warming does NOT exist and these dastardly lies can be corrected if we just listen to a few people at our local TV Land that know more than the combined wisdom of All the earth's scientists. Wow, how could I have ever DOUBTED YOU GUYS?
........AND SO THAT must ALSO mean that my local and state weather people must have been wrong when they said that the Gulf of Mexico water had been at a record high temperature this summer. WOW, they also must have been in on the disinformation campaign by the EVIL Cabal. And the country of Australia must be in on the lies, when they say that the coral on the great barrier reef are dying. What an enormous plot. And hurricane IAN did NOT CAUSE the most damage for a hurricane to the US, EVER. Wow, those lies just go on and on.
.......I am SO VERY glad that we have experts here in TVLand to help me understand all this confusion. And I bet that there really has NOT been an increase in CO2 in seawater in recent years.
........I am so relieved that I won't have to worry about Fl summer being too hot, I can save on A/C costs. And Fl or the US won't have ANY KILLER hurricanes this summer and autumn. Golly gee whiz, Batman, I am so relieved !!!!!

One might consider removing the erroneous, insane and woke filters from their google search engine