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Like politics, Religion should also be banned on this board.

Nothing productive comes from it
They are very similar and becoming more so!
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Old 08-17-2022, 04:58 PM
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I guess we that caught the Covid-19 virus are now part Bat?
Possibly........try to do a sonar ping. Or sprinkle some flying insects on your salads.
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:16 PM
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I see a common misunderstanding here. First off, Darwin didn’t propose that evolution exists. People could see the evidence of it and then he came up with an explanation (Natural Selection) of why it happens.

Evidence of evolution is all around. Viruses/bacteria mutate. Our abuse of antibiotics has resulted in super bugs because those bugs that have a slightly better resistance are the ones that survive and pass on their genes. The weak ones die and their line disappears. That’s natural selection. This is what we teach in schools.

People breed animals and plants to optimize them for their use. Does your pet “fur baby” look anything like a wolf? No, it has evolved through what people might consider unnatural selection (evolution directed by humans).

Darwin didn’t propose a theory of evolution but a theory of its cause. Evolution is a fact—not a theory.
I believe that birds are really dinosaurs. That sort of twists the concept of what a species is.
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i believe that birds are really dinosaurs. That sort of twists the concept of what a species is.
the head bobbing has been cited
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:32 PM
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Thank you for explaining this further. I agree with you 100%.
Scientists are like explorers that are ALWAYS searching for the NEXT thing, never finding. As a theory moves to acceptance and a "law' - the scientist has found new theories to explore. Each new discovery suggests new theories to work on.
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:37 PM
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well! If the pope says so then it must be true. Right?
fascinating story for those who wish to do some research
ps. St augustine did not take genesis literally.

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I heard it said once that there's never been an atheist in a fox hole. The day may come that you cry out to "sky daddy".
Personally, I would like it better if they cried out, "No more wars!"
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:39 PM
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fascinating story for those who wish to do some research
ps. St augustine did not take genesis literally.
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:45 PM
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scientists are like explorers that are always searching for the next thing, never finding. As a theory moves to acceptance and a "law' - the scientist has found new theories to explore. Each new discovery suggests new theories to work on.
correct. The expansion of the universe was faster than the speed of light so the research going on is to get closer to the bb because the physics there are not the physics of today
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Dam, and I thought Evolution was a golf cart made by EZGO? I agree with Pugmom, the Big Bang was a result of God lighting his f@ r+s on fire.
And just like that the conversation fell back down a dark hole, screaming in disbelief.
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Old 08-17-2022, 05:54 PM
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GOD? Someone the ancients believed in to accept things they couldn't explain that modern science has since found evidence for or against. As an MD, I really thought that we had moved on from the GOD theory to actual Science.
The movie "Prometheus" expanded on questions like we are discussing. Also "Raised by Wolves", which is on Prime and also directed by Ridley Scott.
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Old 08-17-2022, 06:04 PM
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Hmmmmm.

Say that the poster was not an MD, but instead a mechanic: the guy who fixes complicated automobiles about which we rank-and-filers know little or nothing. Would that mechanic be justified in believing that the complicated machinery upon which he works "just happened", or would he have to admit that, at some point along the evolution of machinery, there had to be some sort of intelligent design?
As far as mechanical devices go - chimpanzees are known to use tools.........so, are they evolving or using intelligent design. Are they just a few evolutionary rungs behind humans?

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It goes back much farther than fishes becoming mammals. It goes all the way back to stars becoming planets, and atoms becoming stars.

If the 98% DNA we share with chimpanzees isn't enough to prove that, if we didn't evolve from chimps, we at least had a common ancestor, than what's your explanation? Random chance? God "poofed" everything into existence simultaneously 6,000 years ago because you think your holy book says so? (It doesn't, by the way). Do you have any inkling of the number of atoms involved? Try to imagine the trillions upon trillions of coincidences that would be necessary for that to happen! And then try to explain why a significant portion of your DNA is also identical to that found in insects and jellyfish!

The question isn't whether evolution is a fact. The question is how all of those coincidences could happen without a plan. Evolution doesn't disprove God, any more than understanding how an airplane works disproves flight. The astounding level of coincidence necessary for evolution to work is the best evidence that, not only does He exist, he's the ultimate engineer!

Why do people expect a book written for people living when Ramses II was alive to be scientifically accurate 3,000 years later? A holy book, even one dictated by God himself, doesn't have to be scientifically precise in order to be true. You've heard of parables, right? The creation story wasn't written to explain quantum mechanics. It was written to explain why people behave so badly. Even the story itself isn't contextually consistent on its face. Where did Cain and Able's wives come from? Not important to the story, so it's not included -- just like the details of how God created Man from dust -- star dust, over about 4 billion years.
You obviously have me confused with someone else.
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I am a member but I have NEVER attended a meeting. Sometimes people are so bright they can be rather reclusive, anti-social, and/or lack people skills. The small talk and discussions in their magazine was enough to tell me not to go to a meeting.
There is a bit of IRONY there. Someone that is reclusive would NOT go to meetings - the NON- reclusive ones would attend.
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the head bobbing has been cited
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