[dbussone]

Originally Posted by billethkid

As long as this or any other crises facing our contry is ONLY dealt with POLITICALLY there will be no advances made. Only wait and see after the fact, crisies mode which by it's very nature means playing catch up.



This administration ONLY acts POLITICALLY.......not logical and certainly not smart. Smart includes learning from past mistakes which they most certainly do not.



A better chioce would have been Senator Frisk...he is a sitting senator....he is an MD....he knows the medical community....which should be driving ANY political actions.



Next choice would be one of the 5 star generals who have had multiple combat experiences and directing large groups of people. Give him the objective and then keep the politicians the hell outta the way.



Remember political decisions are not good or right decisions THEY ARE POLITICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you mean former Senator Bill Frist?

[Cisco Kid]

I believe HIV is the world’s leading infectious killer is it not ?

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Everyone has to die sooner or later from something, so this will be the something for some people. There's no nice way to die unless you live to 112 and your heart stops during the night. Did you ever see someone die from dementia, cancer or Parkinson's etc? It's not pretty.

I have to say, while I understand your point, I really don't get why you bothered making it within the context of the Ebola discussion

What would you recommend for our society regarding Ebola... rely totally on fate? Because, after all, the virus will burn itself out eventually. The only question is how many will die as a result and how long it will take ... although I guess we could add "where" it will burn out as well. Hopefully not in America on any large scale.

[BarryRX]

[janmcn]

AOL.com Article - More than 100 monitored for Ebola symptoms in Ohio


More than 100 Ohioans are being monitored for Ebola symptoms after the infected nurse visited the state last week-end. This is in addition to the 75 health-care workers being monitored in Dallas, plus the 48 originally being watched (some of which are now being cleared).

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Since this is not a cabinet appointment, President Obama can appoint whoever he wants without senate confirmation (I think that is correct). The opposing party can critique all they like. That's the beauty of free speech, but the fact remains the president's appointee will stay on the job.

Ok, you clearly did not understand my post. Go back and reread it please before reading what follows …

We already have a Cabinet official, the Secretary of Health and Human Services. You’ll note the word ‘health’ is part of her title. She is paid approximately $200,000 per year, before executive bonuses which means she can make more. She manages about 77,000 employees and her total budget is approximately $1 Trillion (note: trillion, not billion) per year. While this includes Medicare and related transfer payments, the point is … she has LOTS of budget clout and authority. She also appears to be a very competent person with an impressive resume, including Harvard Law and was a Rhodes Scholar.

Biography: HHS Secretary | HHS.gov


She needs to take the lead on Ebola, not a political operative (per your description) buried two levels down in the White House Staff. And yes, senate confirmation is not required. The real question is why have we not even seen or heard from Secretary Burwell? If she needs help, give it to her. But, if she can’t do the job, fire her, and find someone who can. Someone needs to be accountable for results, and that person is Secretary Burwell. Does that not make sense to you?

Besides, the classic DC game is to appoint a “czar” which takes the heat off the senior leaders and make many credulous members of the public think that “ok, they’re finally doing something.” It’s pretty sad to watch actually but it seems to work every time.

Now, you made a comment about “party.” I think we are well past “party” affiliation. Whether we like it or not, we are all absolutely in this together which is why we need common sense solutions which actually work. The problem is obviously one of public health and safety – not politics! Talk alone is cheap, especially when delivered by political operatives. The virus is equal opportunity as it will infect and kill anyone regardless of party, race, creed, or national origin.

Free speech is beautiful indeed and abundant, and I thank the Founders for providing us with that gift. Competence and leadership however, is currently in critically short supply.

[rubicon]

It is my understanding that the pivotal issue is whether the Ebola virus could mutate to a point that it could survive on a dry surface. Presently it needs a host and it has plenty called human beings. so if the airborne droplet, etc falls on a surface and dries up it is essentially at the end of the road.

Given that basic premise it is obvious that medical experts move quickly and intellectually to isolate the Ebola virus down to the last droplet

With the spanish flu pandemic, polio, HIV/AIDS and SARS and other people seem to have more confidence in their government. This is not the case today

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by cologal

I really hope that this outbreak never reaches the level of that outbreak. Unfortunately we are NOT in control of the door.... We used to have US Public Health Service Hospitals with quarantine stations. I know this because I worked at one on Staten Island. The bad news they were all closed...by the same President who ignored that last virus.

I hope also that your blog information is incorrect....according to what I have heard the US Hospitals are only equipped to handle 9 patients, I think there are 5,000 patients in West Africa now.

I forgot.... at least 2 patients have already been transported to the US for treatment and all have so far survived. I think one doctor and a reporter.

CDC is reportedly monitoring about 700 people as a result of the 2nd nurse’s travel to Cleveland. As I think about it, that number is likely low because it does not include people she may have passed by in the airport (sneeze?) and so forth. As I understand it, these 700 people are not quarantined but simply told to monitor while 21 days pass. But, they can interact with people. Should one of the 700 come down with Ebola, then presumably another network of many people would have to be tracked down and added to the list.

Thus, if we have say 10 infected people fly in from West Africa over the next month or so, and who do not show symptoms at the airport and thus let into the US (under current policy), I guess that means maybe 7,000 more people to monitor? Or maybe just 5,000? No one knows, except to say it would be a big number.

Thus, with only a few cases, the number of people needing to be monitored goes exponential and quickly outstrips our ability to do it. That’s why it needs to be prevented by restricting entry, not reacted to after a case is diagnosed.

[billethkid]

I just read where Obama is Considering allowing infected non Americans from other parts of the world to come to the USA for treatment.
I find this to be a stretch or a mis-understanding.
I find it very difficult to understand that even Obama would not do something so very very stupid........right!

[rubicon]

By the way the more government and the medical community remind me to stay calm the more concerned I get. I mean they promised Ebola would never reach America

[Sandtrap328]

I was just watching two different spectrum news shows about Ebola. Both had experts (medical doctors) saying that direct contact with bodily fluids is the only way to catch Ebola.

Both networks stated that Influenza is far more dangerous here. Both networks stated everyone should get their flu shot immediately.

I had mine about 4 weeks ago.

Nothing political here at all. Get your flu shot, take normal precautions, and stay happy and healthy!

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

I was just watching two different spectrum news shows about Ebola. Both had experts (medical doctors) saying that direct contact with bodily fluids is the only way to catch Ebola.

Both networks stated that Influenza is far more dangerous here. Both networks stated everyone should get their flu shot immediately.

I had mine about 4 weeks ago.

Nothing political here at all. Get your flu shot, take normal precautions, and stay happy and healthy!

The difference between ebola and the flu is the fact that the flu virus is already here in our country. Why we would invite ebola to call the USA home as well? Restrict travel and keep the disease out of our country - we have enough problems to deal with.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I just read where Obama is Considering allowing infected non Americans from other parts of the world to come to the USA for treatment.
I find this to be a stretch or a mis-understanding.
I find it very difficult to understand that even Obama would not do something so very very stupid........right!

This is breaking news. Could you please post a link so we can all read about it?


BTW: regarding a previous post, Senator Bill Frist retired in 2009.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by gomoho

The difference between ebola and the flu is the fact that the flu virus is already here in our country. Why we would invite ebola to call the USA home as well? Restrict travel and keep the disease out of our country - we have enough problems to deal with.

Of course, travel restriction is probably the best idea. Sealing off the southern border is a great idea. Keep Ebola out as much as possible.

However, take normal precautions about crowds, handshaking, kissing, hand sanitizer - and your flu shot.

You have a much better chance of contracting influenza than ebola and influenza can be deadly.

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

Of course, travel restriction is probably the best idea. Sealing off the southern border is a great idea. Keep Ebola out as much as possible.

However, take normal precautions about crowds, handshaking, kissing, hand sanitizer - and your flu shot.

You have a much better chance of contracting influenza than ebola and influenza can be deadly.

I'm not too worried about myself or my family getting ebola. I worry more for the nation's infrastructure if ebola starts decimating all our nation's best medical and public safety forces. The people needed most to stop the disease and to treat the suffering patients are the first to get exposed, and they are in hospitals with air systems that affect thousands of patients already in the hospitals and are there because they are sick and weak and many have lowered immune systems.

There was no reason why Duncan HAD to be allowed to come here. He's not a citizen and I find it highly suspect that he was working reliably in a decent job, and he suddenly quit without notice on September 4. He then came to the U.S. to meet up with his "estranged" girlfriend. I think he was coming here to seek medical treatment for ebola, or to marry the woman to get legal immigration status, or both.

And as for his relatives in TX not having ebola, maybe he knew he had the disease and made sure nobody got close to him, staying in other livlng quarters, etc.