[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Tell me hall you can drive ALL Those cars claim to have at same time? Tell we you don’t have to go 10 miles to hospital what you drive?

You might want to clean up your post….words don’t make sense, so will improvise.
My original post all THREE kids have EV, where they live, and they all drive less than 10 miles to work.

One who has zero knowledge of Surgical Physicians, Staff, little help to understand. You Have to be with a Window of drive time to the facility. We are 3 generations that “Call” is our lives. Depending on Level of facility (Level1 onsite at all times…Level2 15-30 minutes Level 3 30-45 minutes) One is L-1 onsite 24/7 for 7 days sometimes longer.
2 are L-2 6.8miles. Last is L-2 8.8. Every facility has different values but usually very close.

So yep all EVs one way drive to work is less than 10 miles. All are in what is considered as out of city with Two facilities 8 miles apart that are trauma

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Aces4

If it’s a “human” problem and there are too many in this country, I think it was missed in the plans for the “tipping point”.

The graph of increasing human population in the last 20 years or so looks about identical to the HEAT rise on Earth. And the increased CO2 from factories and automobile EXHAUST pipes that ends up in the upper atmosphere and in coral reefs is the MECHANISM by which the increased population acts against itself (humans).
.........One only needs to do a "smell test" as the ICE golf carts drive by to observe the CO2 problem. Hint - the CO2 does NOT fall harmlessly to the ground.
........Electric vehicles may NOT be a PERFECT SOLUTION that pleases everyone, but it is a partial solution that is available today not in the future.
.........The California law banning NEW ICE vehicles may be too little too late. That is where the "tipping point" comes into play. And that is NOT well understood.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy

Rivian and Tesla are doing well. My take is the big 3 are just keeping their heads firmly planted in the sand, hoping they can sell a few more oversized pickups to guys going to the store for a bottle of milk next year. But over time I think they will get their acts together. The switch to the North American standard charging plug is a massive step forward for them.

EVs will make more design progress and more charging stations will be available worldwide as more and more people buy them. The EV motors use about 1/3 the number of parts as an IC engine - that means more inherent reliability - EV motors travel SMOOTHLY in a circle - IC engines depend on up and down motion of pistons and sparks to cause chemical explosions. EVs accelerate better and brake better than ICE vehicles due to a lower center of gravity.
.......In general, EVs are a better potential product and will HELP to stop an overheating EARTH. That IS your basic WIN-WIN.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

EVs will make more design progress and more charging stations will be available worldwide as more and more people buy them. The EV motors use about 1/3 the number of parts as an IC engine - that means more inherent reliability - EV motors travel SMOOTHLY in a circle - IC engines depend on up and down motion of pistons and sparks to cause chemical explosions. EVs accelerate better and brake better than ICE vehicles due to a lower center of gravity.
.......In general, EVs are a better potential product and will HELP to stop an overheating EARTH. That IS your basic WIN-WIN.

And that’s why there are so many accidents in EVS.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The graph of increasing human population in the last 20 years or so looks about identical to the HEAT rise on Earth. And the increased CO2 from factories and automobile EXHAUST pipes that ends up in the upper atmosphere and in coral reefs is the MECHANISM by which the increased population acts against itself (humans).
.........One only needs to do a "smell test" as the ICE golf carts drive by to observe the CO2 problem. Hint - the CO2 does NOT fall harmlessly to the ground.
........Electric vehicles may NOT be a PERFECT SOLUTION that pleases everyone, but it is a partial solution that is available today not in the future.
.........The California law banning NEW ICE vehicles may be too little too late. That is where the "tipping point" comes into play. And that is NOT well understood.

That is the problem.. a partial solution that pads the pockets of the investors. This is not being done on behalf of this country. That’s the truth but there are so many who have fallen for, hook line and sinker.

While people are distracted only by global warming, there are far greater threats to this nation that can undo it before global warming ever begins to harm us.

I’m done with this, one can preach all they want about mandatory EVS. At this rate, pollution is last on the list for what may becoming.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by asianthree

You might want to clean up your post….words don’t make sense, so will improvise.
My original post all THREE kids have EV, where they live, and they all drive less than 10 miles to work.

One who has zero knowledge of Surgical Physicians, Staff, little help to understand. You Have to be with a Window of drive time to the facility. We are 3 generations that “Call” is our lives. Depending on Level of facility (Level1 onsite at all times…Level2 15-30 minutes Level 3 30-45 minutes) One is L-1 onsite 24/7 for 7 days sometimes longer.
2 are L-2 6.8miles. Last is L-2 8.8. Every facility has different values but usually very close.

So yep all EVs one way drive to work is less than 10 miles. All are in what is considered as out of city with Two facilities 8 miles apart that are trauma

So you all could be driving electric golf carts to work if lanes are provided and make a smaller environmental impact?

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

EVs will make more design progress and more charging stations will be available worldwide as more and more people buy them. The EV motors use about 1/3 the number of parts as an IC engine - that means more inherent reliability - EV motors travel SMOOTHLY in a circle - IC engines depend on up and down motion of pistons and sparks to cause chemical explosions. EVs accelerate better and brake better than ICE vehicles due to a lower center of gravity.
.......In general, EVs are a better potential product and will HELP to stop an overheating EARTH. That IS your basic WIN-WIN.

There’ an article in engineering.com titled:
Everyone Wants EVs, But Where Will the Metals Come From?

This is why I too want pollution addressed by not by buying a pig in a poke!

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Aces4

So you all could be driving electric golf carts to work if lanes are provided and make a smaller environmental impact?

Sure as long as it’s you bleeding out, and staff says we have to wait until the call team drives their 20mph golf cart 8 miles. So you missed the point you have 15-30 minutes to be at the scrub sink read to go.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Aces4

So you all could be driving electric golf carts to work if lanes are provided and make a smaller environmental impact?

Sure as long as it’s you bleeding out, and staff says we have to wait until the call team drives their 20mph golf cart 8 miles. So you missed the point you have 15-30 minutes to be at the scrub sink read to go. One 24 hour shift, the rest call, is pretty common especially with DINKs.

So no golf cart for trauma units wouldn’t work

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Sure as long as it’s you bleeding out, and staff says we have to wait until the call team drives their 20mph golf cart 8 miles. So you missed the point you have 15-30 minutes to be at the scrub sink read to go. One 24 hour shift, the rest call, is pretty common especially with DINKs.

So no golf cart for trauma units wouldn’t work

Nor would a stalled out EV from the cold work. You never know…

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Nor would a stalled out EV from the cold work. You never know…

Actually, I think after several years of experience he would know… far better than someone with no first-hand experience at all.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Actually, I think after several years of experience he would know… far better than someone with no first-hand experience at all.

I’ve seen enough firsts in my life not to be naive.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

I’ve seen enough firsts in my life not to be naive.

And some are still convinced they will one day see a unicorn

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

And some are still convinced they will one day see a unicorn

You’re talking about the EV unicorn?

Did you take the time to read the report I mentioned earlier, “Everyone Wants EVs, But Where Will the Metals Come From?

If you want to save the planet, you may want to look at alternatives to EVs.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

You’re talking about the EV unicorn?

Did you take the time to read the report I mentioned earlier, “Everyone Wants EVs, But Where Will the Metals Come From?

If you want to save the planet, you may want to look at alternatives to EVs.

Keep throwing the spaghetti against the wall and hoping something sticks.