[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

Definitely not to argue but I saw that Florida Statute 790.29 seems to prohibit paramilitary training. Isn't that still a law on the books?

Excellent question! That law was written to prohibit paramilitary training in Florida during the period that Cuban revolutionary groups were forming in Florida to prepare for paramilitary actions against the Castro regime.

It has nothing to do with either the official Organized Militia (primarily the branches of the Florida National Guard) or the official Unorganized Militia, which does not meet or train as a group.

Please understand, every able bodied citizen of Florida who is subject to military service is, in general, a member of the unorganized Florida Militia and is subject to conscription into active service at the direction of the governor. Remember also that the Selective Service (Draft) Law is still in effect; they are simply not drafting people into the military at present. Read the law again.

(1) The militia consists of all able-bodied citizens of this state and all other able-bodied persons who have declared their intention to become citizens.
(2) The organized militia is composed of the National Guard and any other organized military forces that are authorized by law.
(3) The unorganized militia is composed of all persons who are subject to military duty but who are not members of units of the organized militia.
(4) Only persons exempt from military duty by the terms of federal law are exempt from military duty in this state.

It is probable that virtually no one in The Villages meets the criteria to be in the Unorganized Militia due to age, physical infirmity or prior military experience.

It is not something that you "join." If you meet the criteria in the law, you are in the Unorganized Militia. Groups who band together and call themselves militia groups are not the Unorganized Florida Militia. Such groups also are in violation of the Florida law previously cited if they conduct paramilitary training.

As to the purpose of my original post; as I indicated it was a follow-up to a closed thread regarding the Second Amendment in which it was apparent that many people do not understand the concept of the modern militia.

I didn't realize that it would be so difficult to understand my purpose.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Excellent question! That law was written to prohibit paramilitary training in Florida during the period that Cuban revolutionary groups were forming in Florida to prepare for paramilitary actions against the Castro regime.

It has nothing to do with either the official Organized Militia (primarily the branches of the Florida National Guard) or the official Unorganized Militia, which does not meet or train as a group.

Please understand, every able bodied citizen of Florida who is subject to military service is, in general, a member of the unorganized Florida Militia and is subject to conscription into active service at the direction of the governor. Remember also that the Selective Service (Draft) Law is still in effect; they are simply not drafting people into the military at present. Read the law again.

(1) The militia consists of all able-bodied citizens of this state and all other able-bodied persons who have declared their intention to become citizens.
(2) The organized militia is composed of the National Guard and any other organized military forces that are authorized by law.
(3) The unorganized militia is composed of all persons who are subject to military duty but who are not members of units of the organized militia.
(4) Only persons exempt from military duty by the terms of federal law are exempt from military duty in this state.

It is probable that virtually no one in The Villages meets the criteria to be in the Unorganized Militia due to age, physical infirmity or prior military experience.

It is not something that you "join." If you meet the criteria in the law, you are in the Unorganized Militia. Groups who band together and call themselves militia groups are not the Unorganized Florida Militia. Such groups also are in violation of the Florida law previously cited if they conduct paramilitary training.

As to the purpose of my original post; as I indicated it was a follow-up to a closed thread regarding the Second Amendment in which it was apparent that many people do not understand the concept of the modern militia.

I didn't realize that it would be so difficult to understand my purpose.

Many States have organized militias that are not the National Guard. Maryland had the State Guard . I was a Colonel(06) in the Maryland National Guard and served as the senior military advisor to the State Guard (1988-1989) I attended a national conference of State Guard units in El Paso in 1989 and about 15 states had their State Guard reps present. This units were strictly organized as state units with no Federal recognition. I have not kept abreast of the movement and don't know if these groups still exist.

[rubicon]

I do no see this topic of militia as a basis for a back and forth on the gun control issue nor do i see it has an avenue to strike fear in anyone.

I see the issue as one of realistic preparedness .

I am an avid viewer of the television series "Homeland". I watched the season premiere and as I watched my thoughts went to how we would react if instead of some middle east city all of these event were unfolding in The Villages. Our homes invaded our building destroyed our savings confiscated by the enemy our friend killed..........................

We have become too complacent too disengaged and so I for one was glad to read that each state does have a plan for readiness

[kittygilchrist]

Go Rubicon. I count on you to be my Secret Gister.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

I always get a kick out of people ripping Snopes. Even though they cite their sources in their critiques and the Annenberg Foundation finds them credible there is a cry of foul from those who disagree with the results.

I always get a kick out of people who think a site that agrees with them is so credible...Wikipedia anyone?

[tomwed]

i forgot

[tomwed]

i forgot

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by tomwed

I did look.
When I do research I look for sites that end in .org,.gov,.edu. I could not find those sites. I did find many opinionated and what appeared to be hate sites.
Why waste my time looking for information someone wants me to read? Why not just give me the link? Obviously I did not find the right site.

I got involved with the thread with the tripping breakers. I found out about eaton and mobile ham radios. I gave links and youtubes to share with others. Why would I learn something and give someone else motivational speech?

ps
Wikipedia is an acceptable source of information

If you believe it, great!

[Golf View]

Originally Posted by Jimturner

My father was English. Since the British were kicked out of America by the original militia, would I be welcome to join? Could I ask for a statistical report on how many women, minorities and a breakout by religious beliefs so I can be sure this band of citizens represents all Americans?

In this day & age there is no one who can represent ALL Americans. We have been separated by wealth, race, class, ethnicity, age and on and on.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Golf View

In this day & age there is no one who can represent ALL Americans. We have been separated by wealth, race, class, ethnicity, age and on and on.

We have always been separated by those things. But in the past, our leaders spoke and acted in such a way as to unify us. Now they seem to want to divide us against ourselves. Remember what Lincoln said about a house divided.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

We have always been separated by those things. But in the past, our leaders spoke and acted in such a way as to unify us. Now they seem to want to divide us against ourselves. Remember what Lincoln said about a house divided.

Actually it is the elitist, political, special interest and minority groups that have something to gain by division that are constatntly in the spot light amplified by the 24/7 media.

Go to any public gathering or event and you will witness first hand what America is all about. They live, play and at times mourn together.

The problem is further nurtured by the silent majority that just simply will not put down the remote and demand better from those who pretend to represent us in Washington.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Jimturner

My father was English. Since the British were kicked out of America by the original militia, would I be welcome to join? Could I ask for a statistical report on how many women, minorities and a breakout by religious beliefs so I can be sure this band of citizens represents all Americans?

Hi jimturner: since intent is difficult to express on this forum it may be best that I point out that my comments are intended only as a reminder. Recall, "The enemies of my enemies are my friends". Also Americans have shown in the past that despite our differences we can unite to protect this blessed nation of ours. I have no reason to doubt this has changed despite the rhetoric coming out of Washington.

[Jimturner]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Actually it is the elitist, political, special interest and minority groups that have something to gain by division that are constatntly in the spot light amplified by the 24/7 media.

Go to any public gathering or event and you will witness first hand what America is all about. They live, play and at times mourn together.

The problem is further nurtured by the silent majority that just simply will not put down the remote and demand better from those who pretend to represent us in Washington.

To be honest BTK, I don't often pay much attention to your posts, but for me, you nailed with this one. Yea to BTK.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Actually it is the elitist, political, special interest and minority groups that have something to gain by division that are constatntly in the spot light amplified by the 24/7 media.

Go to any public gathering or event and you will witness first hand what America is all about. They live, play and at times mourn together.

The problem is further nurtured by the silent majority that just simply will not put down the remote and demand better from those who pretend to represent us in Washington.

Well I read the post that said you nailed this thing so I reread it and I think I must be an elitist and special interest person and political person and also a minority of several sorts. Single, female, Cherokee AND Gator fan...and a plethora of other stuff.

I want to know what I have to gain. As I am seldom silent and almost never say anything most people agree with, I want to get whatever you were thinking I should get.

[Jimturner]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Well I read the post that said you nailed this thing so I reread it and I think I must be an elitist and special interest person and political person and also a minority of several sorts. Single, female, Cherokee AND Gator fan...and a plethora of other stuff.

I want to know what I have to gain. As I am seldom silent and almost never say anything most people agree with, I want to get whatever you were thinking I should get.

Best post I have read where someone became one's own accuser, prosecutor and judge, and was found guilty as charged. You go girl!