[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I remember writing the NRA maybe twenty years ago about my 224 613 Project. It is the same kind of principal of checks and balances through access to the ability to fight for yourself. In my Project's case though it was the ability to find up-to-date and practical information to weather the storm of the legal system if you were a survivor/victim of crime.

I have mixed feelings about gun control though being a survivor/victim activist as so many guns are used in mass shootings which would belong more in an armory than say in someone's gun cabinet.

The problem of course is an evil group of people getting control of the armory if such weapons were just in these kind of armories rather than in the hands of citizens.

This does seem to be a very complicated and interesting topic.

I would like to know more about what other States' Statutes say about militias? How about your home state?

On a little amusing aside, I tried contacting Playboy as well as the NRA around the same time and the nice woman who answered from Playboy said that they would not be interested in writing an article on any topic like that one. Not even a picture!

I can only recall maybe one mass shooting that involved a scary black rifle. The vast, vast, majority of mass shootings were with handguns. I believe FBI stats will confirm that there are more murders, annually, with baseball bats than rifles.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by outlaw

I can only recall maybe one mass shooting that involved a scary black rifle. The vast, vast, majority of mass shootings were with handguns. I believe FBI stats will confirm that there are more murders, annually, with baseball bats than rifles.

https://riversong.wordpress.com/the-guns-of-columbine/

I would like to see more information about the weapons used in these various shootings.

You may be right about the baseball bats though but these would be domestic violence murders where they use anything that is on hand like chairs, pots, glasses, etc.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

https://riversong.wordpress.com/the-guns-of-columbine/

I would like to see more information about the weapons used in these various shootings.

You may be right about the baseball bats though but these would be domestic violence murders where they use anything that is on hand like chairs, pots, glasses, etc.

I think they are the Jersey choice for in the trunk weapon.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by fred53

Why does he not just come out and say "Florida has a militia and it is legal....if you want to join let us know"? And then state why we should join.

It is vague because he doesn't state any particular reason for the post other than to say it's legal and been around a while. No different than making a post that I hunt with a license and people have been doing it for ages....it's vague and meant to sort of educate...so you like his post...all that means is that you are or could be friends...

My guess is that Carl would've said what you said if He meant what you said, which he did not.

[tomwed]

i forgot

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by tomwed

the claim that more people are killed by baseball bats than by firearms, an assertion typically cited as a truism which is borne out by FBI statistics.

Read more at snopes.com: Gun Deaths vs. Baseball Bat Deaths

However, information gathered by the FBI does not support this claim. The Uniform Crime Reports made available on the "Crime in the U.S." section of the FBI's web site includes homicide data that breaks down killings by the types of weapons used. In 2011, the percentages for weapon types used in homicides throughout the U.S. were as follows:
Firearms: 67.8%
Knives or other cutting instruments: 13.4%
Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.): 5.7%
Blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.): 3.9%
Other dangerous weapons: 9.2%

Read more at snopes.com: Gun Deaths vs. Baseball Bat Deaths

Not a big fan of Snopes.com but glad you posted that tomwed. I had some problems of a serious nature with Snopes.com in my 224 613 Project but they can be very useful for research. Let's just say Snopes received a lot of e-mails from me back in the day to rival the number of e-mails I had sent to other entities. It is just a couple in Los Angeles-- the Mikkelsons-- who had a good idea.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Jimturner

Thank you. As long as the interpretation of freedom and liberty comes from all sexes, races and religions, count me in. However, I fear some malitias get their start from a select group of men sitting at the counter of local watering holes. My hope is that I am wrong.

You are. And come across as dated and very biased....to me anyway.....and that is your preogative.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by tomwed

the claim that more people are killed by baseball bats than by firearms, an assertion typically cited as a truism which is borne out by FBI statistics.

Read more at snopes.com: Gun Deaths vs. Baseball Bat Deaths

However, information gathered by the FBI does not support this claim. The Uniform Crime Reports made available on the "Crime in the U.S." section of the FBI's web site includes homicide data that breaks down killings by the types of weapons used. In 2011, the percentages for weapon types used in homicides throughout the U.S. were as follows:
Firearms: 67.8%
Knives or other cutting instruments: 13.4%
Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.): 5.7%
Blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.): 3.9%
Other dangerous weapons: 9.2%

Read more at snopes.com: Gun Deaths vs. Baseball Bat Deaths

Maybe if you break down firearms into rifles vs handguns it's true.

I wonder what happens to those percentages if we just exclude Chicago, Detroit, Wash DC, and New Orleans?

[tomwed]

i forgot

[tomwed]

i forgot

[AJ32162]

Originally Posted by tomwed

I'm anxious to learn and it was hard to research. Why don't you tell me what you know about the militias in Florida and add the links.
Teachers call that a lesson plan.

If you are truly that anxious to to learn, might I suggest that you might start with learning how to research the subjects that you are interested in.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by billethkid

You are. And come across as dated and very biased....to me anyway.....and that is your preogative.

I was thinking the same thing.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by tomwed

the claim that more people are killed by baseball bats than by firearms, an assertion typically cited as a truism which is borne out by FBI statistics.

Read more at snopes.com: Gun Deaths vs. Baseball Bat Deaths

However, information gathered by the FBI does not support this claim. The Uniform Crime Reports made available on the "Crime in the U.S." section of the FBI's web site includes homicide data that breaks down killings by the types of weapons used. In 2011, the percentages for weapon types used in homicides throughout the U.S. were as follows:
Firearms: 67.8%
Knives or other cutting instruments: 13.4%
Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.): 5.7%
Blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.): 3.9%
Other dangerous weapons: 9.2%

Read more at snopes.com: Gun Deaths vs. Baseball Bat Deaths

Maybe if you break down firearms into rifles vs handguns it's true.

That's why I said rifles. And snopes is biased as h3!!. Even they have their agenda. Snopes is masterful at comparing apples and oranges, cherry picking data, etc. The same technique you used by posting a lot of "data" regarding gun violence versus other weapons, as if it refuted my assertion, which it did not.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by outlaw

That's why I said rifles. And snopes is biased as h3!!. Even they have their agenda. Snopes is masterful at comparing apples and oranges, cherry picking data, etc. The same technique you used by posting a lot of "data" regarding gun violence versus other weapons, as if it refuted my assertion, which it did not.

Snopes does have the bias of the couple who run it. They just research some urban myth or some other tidbit and post what they find.

Their Tinfoil Hat conspiracy nut board is where they put some e-mails they get which seem unbelievable to them. The peanut gallery they have on there then cut into the e-mail senders with whatever they think will get a big laugh out of the rest of the group. The original e-mail senders though are banned from getting onto this group to defend themselves. That's my problem with Snopes.com. I got dropped into their shark tank and ripped to pieces for years with no ability to fight back. As for who funds them-- I believe that they are funded by advertisers?

[Chi-Town]

I always get a kick out of people ripping Snopes. Even though they cite their sources in their critiques and the Annenberg Foundation finds them credible there is a cry of foul from those who disagree with the results.