[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by CFrance

The people who so feared for the life of their children and sent them off alone--Irish famine, Jews in WWII, Cuban boat lift--are the bravest parents of all. I cannot imagine having to make that decision. The ones who did it hoping it would be a ticket for themselves into the country are beyond abusive.

Hubs and I were saying yesterday we should be thanking God every day for those born in America, Canada, or western Europe. There but for the grace of Giod...

I doubt if all the parents of the current influx of children meet the criteria of bravery. I truly believe some of them are using this situation to improve their own quality of life, and their sending us their children is analogous to having an abortion.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

I doubt if all the parents of the current influx of children meet the criteria of bravery. I truly believe some of them are using this situation to improve their own quality of life, and their sending us their children is analogous to having an abortion.

How crass.

[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by CFrance

How crass.

That's the nature of reality.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by CFrance

How crass.

Another outlook.....

"New York Times writer Frances Robles wrote in June, "Many (unaccompanied children migrants) say they are going because they believe the United States treats migrant children traveling alone and women with their children more leniently than adult illegal immigrants with no children."


Read more at Why thousands of migrant children are crossing the U.S. border alone | Deseret News National

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by CFrance

How crass.

understated! Thnx. Cyndi!

[Rags123]

I am trying to stay away from the name calling and actually find out WHY children are showing up alone......gave a few and here is another...

"With the invasion now taking place, it is going to explode. No parents means that any immigrant child under 18 can apply for a Green Card as soon as they are deemed “abandoned” by their parents for 6 months by the court system. There are some other minor rules, but that is the big one…."

From the same source....

"What nobody is talking about (or maybe nobody has realized yet) is that this is going to flood the child welfare courts FIRST, before they get to the USCIS (certain findings of fact which can only be made by the state are prerequisites to SIJS applications) with a sudden influx of “abandoned” children, and put a strain on the CPS system like nothing that has ever been seen.”

Immigration Reform|Special Immigrant Juvenile Status

I was not aware of most of this and each days reading makes me a bit more concerned and angry at the same time. I wish everyone would try to read about this and what is happening BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT US IN THE FUTURE !!! I do not know who those border states can handle this.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Rags123

I was not aware of most of this and each days reading makes me a bit more concerned and angry at the same time. I wish everyone would try to read about this and what is happening BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT US IN THE FUTURE !!! I do not know who those border states can handle this.

I have lived in a border state and it has been a strain for MANY years. This sitituation will be an impossible burden to bear.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

I have lived in a border state and it has been a strain for MANY years. This sitituation will be an impossible burden to bear.

The people who know best and firsthand what the problem is are those that now live on the border. They are the states always thought of as religious and traditional and so they are frequently dismissed by the people who don't hold to that stuff. Sad to me.

[zcaveman]

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[jlongman]

That statue was given to us by France. Their inscription not necessarily ours.

[rp001]

Originally Posted by jlongman

That statue was given to us by France. Their inscription not necessarily ours.

DEFINE OURS. ....don't believe for a minute thes sentiments shown on this thread even begin to represent the masses. This is a minority opinion!

[graciegirl]

Public shifts toward prioritizing deportation, poll shows - The Washington Post

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Public shifts toward prioritizing deportation, poll shows - The Washington Post

YET...on the other hand.......

"The President may be preparing to provide temporary legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants

When President Obama issues executive orders on immigration in coming weeks, pro-reform activists are expecting something dramatic: temporary relief from deportation and work authorization for perhaps several million undocumented immigrants."

Immigration Reform: Obama May Provide Legal Status to Millions - TIME

"In a fiery speech at the Los Angeles Convention Center on Saturday, U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said he was confident after meeting with President Obama last week that the president will move forward in the coming months with an executive order that would grant legal status to millions of immigrants in the country illegally, possibly including the parents of American-born children."

Congressman optimistic Obama will grant immigrants legal status - LA Times


So....only time will tell !!!! All conjecture at this point.

[buggyone]

President Obama has the legal authority to write Executive Orders and if Congress cannot agree on viable compromises, the Executive Order is a good way to make sure action is taken.

All Presidents have used Executive Orders.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

No, I'm not saying that the mission statement per se is what definitively categorizes MJ as far left. I've read the magazine intermittently over the years and reached that conclusion way before Gracie asked the question.

However, the mission statement does provide insight if you read between the lines ... to wit, MJ talks about "..inspiring a more just and democratic world." That certainly sounds laudatory, wouldn't you agree? But they are code words within the context of what they publish in general. (both sides of the spectrum use code words btw ... different words in different context etc)

In practice, MJ is very sympathetic towards, and supports advancement of the worldwide "socialist" cause. I believe anyone who actually reads MJ will recognize what I said is objectively true. That's also not to say that the article and photo about earlier generations of child immigrants, and from where Gracie's question came, was out of place. The article was pertinent. However, I'm also saying, MJ is for all intents and purposes a far left publication.

Anyway, let's get back to the topic of give me your tired etc.

I say, build a wall, deport the illegals, welcome all LEGAL immigrants and in the meantime, put diplomatic and, if needed, military pressure on the government of Mexico. They are allowing these people passage thru their territory. It is an act of quasi-war IMHO.

Also, ironically enough, had the US Army remained in Mexico in 1847-48, we could have prevented this whole mess, annexed all of Mexico and got on with things. Then the US and the Mexicans would have both been better of under the US Constitution, the heritage of English law and a free market economy. (but that's another thread ... which I may do TBD)

Thanks for the info. I really didn't know about Mother Jones until they released the Romney 47% video. Still don't follow it. As far as the US Army remaining in Mexico in 1847-48, that would mean that there would be no Cinco de Mayo celebration. Removing that from my holiday calendar would be painful.