[perrjojo]

History has a way of repeating itself.
Have any of you heard about the Orphan Train that operated from 1853 to 1929? The Northeast was inundated with immigrants in the large cities and there was not enough work. People were starving and giving up their children. Parents were dying and leaving orphans. The institutions were overwhelmed with all of these orphan children. Several organizations began the Orphan Train which relocated over 250,000.00 immigrant children throughout the US, mostly the Midwest. Many were fortunate enough to be adopted by loving families but more were basically slaves used for far work and housekeeping. We have been through this before in the US. The results were not pretty. My Great grandfather and his first wife lived on a farm in Kansas and had no children. They adopted two children from the orphan train. I hope they were treated well but I often wonder since no one in our family seems to know what happened to them. There names were John and Emily Davis (9 and 11 years old) and they were from Ireland.
Oh, I forgot to mention that there would be advance notice that the trains were coming to your city. The children would depart the train and stand on the platform for viewing and hoping someone would take them. At the time many likened this display to a slave market. It was a very humiliating experience but hopefully it made some lives better.

[sunnyatlast]

It's the purposeful dumping of children, by Mexico, Guatemala etc. dumping their children out to be somebody else's problem.

Dumping dogs is a felony in the U.S. The dumping nations must be held to account.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

It's the purposeful dumping of children, by Mexico, Guatemala etc. dumping their children out to be somebody else's problem.

Dumping dogs is a felony in the U.S. The dumping nations must be held to account.

The dumping nations' politicians will figure out a way to get aid money from the USA....somehow.
Or they will figure out how to sue the USA for not treating the kids as they think they should be.
Two stupid comments, I recognize.....but both 100% within the realm of possibility.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

It's the purposeful dumping of children, by Mexico, Guatemala etc. dumping their children out to be somebody else's problem.

Dumping dogs is a felony in the U.S. The dumping nations must be held to account.

What you have stated sounds harsh and cruel but unfortunately reality is harsh and cruel. It is not the fault of the children but of the home nations. These home Nations must be held accountable for this tragedy.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

What you have stated sounds harsh and cruel but unfortunately reality is harsh and cruel. It is not the fault of the children but of the home nations. These home Nations must be held accountable for this tragedy.

Unfortunately we as a nation have allowed the deterioration of the meaning of being held accountable to the level of being totally meaningless no matter how serious or dastardly the deed(s).

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." Psalm 14:1

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There is nothing here that says there is no God, only there is no heaven nor hell. Lots of people around the world have God or Gods by different names and, unfortunately, fought bravely in their name.

[Nightengale212]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I think Lady Liberty has emigrated to Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan!

Gee, I wonder how many of these south of the border illegal immigrant minor's parents would send their children to Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan or any other country for that matter if their children were offered amnesty there ???

Interesting program noted below. Just too bad this type of funding is not available to our own legal disadvantaged children to help them escape from a life of neglect, abuse, and poverty that they are currently living in this country!!!

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A shocking new report from Breitbart.com says an ad is offering more than $6,000 a month to people willing to house illegal immigrant minors in Murrieta, Calif.

An ad placed in the Penny Saver Newspaper in Murrieta, California is seeking "loving, compassionate parents to provide a loving home" for illegal immigrant minors, according to a local reader of the publication.

Lisa Maloney Vinton, a Murrieta resident, provided Breitbart Texas with a purported copy of the advertisement, which was put up by the Crittenton Services and Foster Family Agency. It says, "Help heal the wounds ... for children in foster care programs including survivors of human trafficking and unaccompanied refugee minors."

Parents who offer up their homes could have a child placed in their home in "as short as 45 days" and be paid up to $6,054 per month, according to the advertisement.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I'm interested in your opinion. Since we are now taking in more people than ever do you think that it has been revoked?

I somehow sense that you posted this with the huge influx of people coming here illegally being prevented from entering, being turned away and apprehended when found in the country.

What is your position? Would you have no laws or regulations for people entering our country? Would you not regulate who is a citizen? How exactly would you handle immigration?

If only I had the wisdom of Solomon.!!

I believe that we need well though out immigration laws that are enforced while leaving room for merciful judgement. If I were living in a crime ridden hell hole with my children suffering from poverty and/or gang activity, I would try to enter America by any method short of violence. The US would have a right to enforce it's reasonable laws to stop me from entering.
We do have laws allowing for refugee status and I would support review of at least the juvinile cases and accept those who met the refugee criteria.

Overpopulation in the US, according to demographers does not present a problem whereas the reduced birth rate does.We will not have enough young workers to support medicare and ss in the coming decades. It does not seem that the "too many people" argument works.

Glib, pat answers will not help . Reasoned legislation, enforcement and a bit of tolerance and mercy will. JMveryHO.

No, I do not think that the thoughts in the Lazarus poem have been revoked- just tested.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Challenger

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

Has Lady Liberty's inscription been revoked ?

While this may be emotionally appealing and make some people "feel' better, the reality is an open borders policy will destroy the US. It's pretty easy to figure this out. There is a limit -- financially, culturally and politically.

My test would be, if one really feels strongly that anyone from anywhere should be able to come here (which means an infinite number) then start by having 5 or 6 illegal immigrants move into one's own home here in TV for 30 days. After that, we can discuss it further.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by buggyone

It seems as though my comment was not appreciated by at least one poster. I have taken it down.

As to a solution for what to be done on our border to the South - How to turn the influx back to Central America? It could be just to refuse them entry and turn them around with a brief amount of force? Would that look good or would it work? No.

A high wall from Texas to California with barbed wire on top? Would that look good or would it work? No.

Education funds and humanitarian funds to Central America so they would be somewhat better off? Might work.

Take in families and children under a certain age. Good idea.

Actually, a high wall from TX to CA with barbed wire and a military presence that used force, when needed, to stop illegal entry would work quite well and solve the problem. Israel had major success when they finally built a wall that everyone said would never work ... guess what, it did work.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

While this may be emotionally appealing and make some people "feel' better, the reality is an open borders policy will destroy the US. It's pretty easy to figure this out. There is a limit -- financially, culturally and politically.

My test would be, if one really feels strongly that anyone from anywhere should be able to come here (which means an infinite number) then start by having 5 or 6 illegal immigrants move into one's own home here in TV for 30 days. After that, we can discuss it further.

I agree that many think these children should be welcomed but I invite those people to take these children into their homes. It's easy to be judgemental when "it's not my problem". It will become our problem though because even if we do not invite them into our homes we will all be paying to house and feed them with our tax dollars. Honestly, who is going to shelter, feed and give love and emotional support and guidance to 90,000 needy children?

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Seems to me that very few are concerned about the country which is facilitating this invasion of illegals. That is Mexico which allows for the free passage from border to border. While we put sanctions on other countries for misdeeds, there is none that I am aware of on Mexico. There should be major issues worked on by our country to stop the flow and that means getting Mexico to take action.

Your post is spot on ... it's amazing how no one in the USG has yet to make a strong diplomatic demand on Mexico to stop the transfer. We could do this if we had the will ... which we don't yet have and won't until it becomes even more of a mess.

Threaten economic sanctions, cancel aid to Mexico and, if that doesn't work, send the US military into Mexico and defend our border from the south side of the river. We are perceived as not being serious and no rational country in the world would be as dumb as we are about allowing unchecked immigration, and then giving away "free stuff." That's why they come here!

Once we are perceived as serious, and once people know consequences follow, the problem can be solved.

ps why do these illegals never sneak into the socialist paradises like Venezuela, Nicaragua or Bolivia??

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

Your post is spot on ... it's amazing how no one in the USG has yet to make a strong diplomatic demand on Mexico to stop the transfer. We could do this if we had the will ... which we don't yet have and won't until it becomes even more of a mess.

Threaten economic sanctions, cancel aid to Mexico and, if that doesn't work, send the US military into Mexico and defend our border from the south side of the river. We are perceived as not being serious and no rational country in the world would be as dumb as we are about allowing unchecked immigration, and then giving away "free stuff." That's why they come here!

Once we are perceived as serious, and once people know consequences follow, the problem can be solved.

ps why do these illegals never sneak into the socialist paradises like Venezuela, Nicaragua or Bolivia??

It is all part of the agenda to increase the poor population of the USA. They have to import many thousands because it is taking longer for some of us to get poor enough to depend on the free stuff.

Just look around at what it is you do not like about what is going on. Then realize it has not hit you or your family yet so you are not invested in the problem....hence it is not a big deal yet!
Secondly just do a statistical analysis on the impact of the future population growth of all the illegals. Get ready legal Americans you are on your way to being the minority.

We are nose down on a flight to a third world, socialist society......and we the people are helping by keeping silent.....for now!

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by billethkid

It is all part of the agenda to increase the poor population of the USA. They have to import many thousands because it is taking longer for some of us to get poor enough to depend on the free stuff.

Just look around at what it is you do not like about what is going on. Then realize it has not hit you or your family yet so you are not invested in the problem....hence it is not a big deal yet!
Secondly just do a statistical analysis on the impact of the future population growth of all the illegals. Get ready legal Americans you are on your way to being the minority.

We are nose down on a flight to a third world, socialist society......and we the people are helping by keeping silent.....for now!

I really hope you are not literally correct, although without a doubt there is truth in what you post !

I have wondered aloud many times....why has the clamor and correspondence over the past THREE years to Washington DC been unanswered and totally non responsive ?

This is NOT a new problem at all, in anyway.

Again, I hope you are not correct, but there is a lot of evidence now that might support your case.

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

Your post is spot on ... it's amazing how no one in the USG has yet to make a strong diplomatic demand on Mexico to stop the transfer. We could do this if we had the will ... which we don't yet have and won't until it becomes even more of a mess.

Threaten economic sanctions, cancel aid to Mexico and, if that doesn't work, send the US military into Mexico and defend our border from the south side of the river. We are perceived as not being serious and no rational country in the world would be as dumb as we are about allowing unchecked immigration, and then giving away "free stuff." That's why they come here!

Once we are perceived as serious, and once people know consequences follow, the problem can be solved.

ps why do these illegals never sneak into the socialist paradises like Venezuela, Nicaragua or Bolivia??

Granada Nicaragua is a very nice city. Spent a few weeks there a couple years ago. Actually, a lot Americans are retiring there.