[GeorgeT]

Originally Posted by thistrucksforyou

Heres my thoughts and I will upset some people....I think anybody is worth what ever they can get , no matter what they do....Factory workers . truck drivers or quarter backs....I wouldn't want you or anybody else dictate to me how much you think I am worth ! enough said..

I'm not upset but I think you're confusing what you're worth with what someone is willing to pay you. Apples and oranges.

[duffysmom]

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

I have been in rescue for more than 20 years. This was one of the worst situations for volunteer rescuers who often see difficult, dangerous, and deadly scenes. This was a family and friends affair for Michael Vick...who
first proclaimed innocence if you will remember. I would have been happy
if he had not been allowed to become a football player again after his release...and, in the scheme of things, he had a very short sentence. The
rescue community in this Country will not forget what occured and how it
all came down.

I am not willing to turn the other cheek, most murderers don't go back into the world and remake a fortune. I cannot buy into bad
behavior, or 'a changed person'. I'd wager he would still be involved if he hadn't been caught. Please, for those dogs left now in the hands
of volunteer forever homes where the dogs are blind, earless, three legged, toothless...where is their justice? Imagine if you will, what was occuring with the dogs before the police became involved...and for how long...and so secretively.

As we give away our values for a ticket to a football game, we give away
our understanding of reality. Someone has to speak for the dogs. That would be me at the moment. Cheer him on if you must, but do not forget
what actally happened when he started betting on flesh.

Beautifully said. Thank you. How can someone who participated in torturing,
and maiming innocent beings for their own pleasure change; there has to be something missing from his phyche. Can a serial killer be rehabilitated? Money does not bring happiness and hopefully karma will take care of the likes of Michael Vick.

[Doodlegirl]

I'm an old duffer now...but fortunate to have had my sports loving Dad for
98 years until his passing a few years ago. My Dad always spoke of good
sportsman (woman)-like behavior both on the field, the pool, the court, wherever. And, how that translated to home, hearth, neighbors, business, and relationships. Fair play and thoughts for the so-called 'underdog' or a neophyte player in terms of role model.

I'm not sure at all Mr. Vick learned those same lessons, and certainly not in the decades in which I grew up. For my father, uncles, aunts, "fair play" was
an ingredient in sports endeavors. Athlete was a term endeared by him and
passed from him to his children as almost a title of joy and fairness and strength in all things.. I simply do not know how I would describe to a ten
year old the oxymoron of Michael Vick, what occured, and that 'star' quality
discussed here. Possibly I wouldn't use the word athlete about him, simply,
football player.

[GeorgeT]

This thread has gone to the dogs!

[angiefox10]

Originally Posted by GeorgeT

This thread has gone to the dogs!

[handyman]

Originally Posted by tainsley

I too love animals, especially dogs...and was appalled by Vick's actions. But I believe he is remorseful about his past. He did his time and he will probably be judged the rest of his life. But I also believe everyone deserves a second chance!

Did the dogs get a second chance?I believe the only REMORSE he feels is getting caught...............

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

I'm an old duffer now...but fortunate to have had my sports loving Dad for
98 years until his passing a few years ago. My Dad always spoke of good
sportsman (woman)-like behavior both on the field, the pool, the court, wherever. And, how that translated to home, hearth, neighbors, business, and relationships. Fair play and thoughts for the so-called 'underdog' or a neophyte player in terms of role model.

I'm not sure at all Mr. Vick learned those same lessons, and certainly not in the decades in which I grew up. For my father, uncles, aunts, "fair play" was
an ingredient in sports endeavors. Athlete was a term endeared by him and
passed from him to his children as almost a title of joy and fairness and strength in all things.. I simply do not know how I would describe to a ten
year old the oxymoron of Michael Vick, what occured, and that 'star' quality
discussed here. Possibly I wouldn't use the word athlete about him, simply,
football player.

I wish that mr vick could have leveled eyes with the likes of Dick Butkus,I think that he would have understood the fear those dogs felt..........

[samhass]

Originally Posted by tainsley

Go Eagles! Go Phillies!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have Direct TV being installed this AM so we can watch our "Iggles".