[Leafpoker]

If some one is willing to pay it take it. I am in no way saying he is worth it. The owners make a decision an have to live with it. If McDonalds wants to sell cheeseburgers for a nickel who am I to be concerned it is there business to run not mine. The owner can pay him whatever they want.

[old moe]

Originally Posted by buggyone

They get that kind of money because patrons are willing to pony up over $100 per ticket for the football games. Pro football is no longer a Sunday afternoon you can take your two kids and wife to. It would be costing at least $700 for the afternoon.

How does anyone else feel that a salary cap of no more than the President earns ($400,000) be placed on a sports figures salary? The sports figure would have to be a voting resident of that community for at least 2 years before being eligible for that team; and the sports team would have the same ethnic makeup as the surrounding community.

AGREED

[hedoman]

Originally Posted by tainsley

Go Eagles! Go Phillies!

That's what I'm talkin about!

[Doodlegirl]

Core values are difficult, if even possible, to change. He made $ on the dogs and he will make money on the pigskin. Animals seem to be his way of life. Maybe a dog loving quarterback on an opposite team will break his leg...err, of course, accidentally.

How in this world can anyone justify his salary based on how he enhanced his living.His PR team has him covered like jelly. Just remember when you are sitting in your living room during football season, and stand up and yell, "Way To Go, Vick"..you are sending a message to animal rights folks like me...some of whom carried the dying bodies of those dogs from their cages broken, bloody, and dead. And to thousands of kids who know what he did. To make him a hero is to dance with the devil, IMHO. Like many other major sports, its leaders have
momentum, but no heart. Hiring him 'back' is a dangerous message, cheering for him even worse.

[villagegolfer]

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

Core values are difficult, if even possible, to change. He made $ on the dogs and he will make money on the pigskin. Animals seem to be his way of life. Maybe a dog loving quarterback on an opposite team will break his leg...err, of course, accidentally.

How in this world can anyone justify his salary based on how he enhanced his living.His PR team has him covered like jelly. Just remember when you are sitting in your living room during football season, and stand up and yell, "Way To Go, Vick"..you are sending a message to animal rights folks like me...some of whom carried the dying bodies of those dogs from their cages broken, bloody, and dead. And to thousands of kids who know what he did. To make him a hero is to dance with the devil, IMHO. Like many other major sports, its leaders have
momentum, but no heart. Hiring him 'back' is a dangerous message, cheering for him even worse.

Sounds pretty harsh. Do you have some kind of inside information that he is still the same man? Do you think it is right to judge him so severely?

[thistrucksforyou]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

With all the talk of "the rich" and their "greed", why is this kind of greed just fine???

"......Vick got a $100 million, six-year contract from the Philadelphia Eagles, one that makes him the third-highest paid QB in the league and prompted a press conference today in Philadelphia....."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...AJqJ_blog.html

Heres my thoughts and I will upset some people....I think anybody is worth what ever they can get , no matter what they do....Factory workers . truck drivers or quarter backs....I wouldn't want you or anybody else dictate to me how much you think I am worth ! enough said..

[tainsley]

Originally Posted by hedoman

That's what I'm talkin about!

Yeah! How 'bout them Phils!

[tainsley]

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Sounds pretty harsh. Do you have some kind of inside information that he is still the same man? Do you think it is right to judge him so severely?

I too love animals, especially dogs...and was appalled by Vick's actions. But I believe he is remorseful about his past. He did his time and he will probably be judged the rest of his life. But I also believe everyone deserves a second chance!

[Doodlegirl]

I have been in rescue for more than 20 years. This was one of the worst situations for volunteer rescuers who often see difficult, dangerous, and deadly scenes. This was a family and friends affair for Michael Vick...who
first proclaimed innocence if you will remember. I would have been happy
if he had not been allowed to become a football player again after his release...and, in the scheme of things, he had a very short sentence. The
rescue community in this Country will not forget what occured and how it
all came down.

I am not willing to turn the other cheek, most murderers don't go back into the world and remake a fortune. I cannot buy into bad
behavior, or 'a changed person'. I'd wager he would still be involved if he hadn't been caught. Please, for those dogs left now in the hands
of volunteer forever homes where the dogs are blind, earless, three legged, toothless...where is their justice? Imagine if you will, what was occuring with the dogs before the police became involved...and for how long...and so secretively.

As we give away our values for a ticket to a football game, we give away
our understanding of reality. Someone has to speak for the dogs. That would be me at the moment. Cheer him on if you must, but do not forget
what actally happened when he started betting on flesh.

[angiefox10]

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

I have been in rescue for more than 20 years. This was one of the worst situations for volunteer rescuers who often see difficult, dangerous, and deadly scenes. This was a family and friends affair for Michael Vick...who
first proclaimed innocence if you will remember. I would have been happy
if he had not been allowed to become a football player again after his release...and, in the scheme of things, he had a very short sentence. The
rescue community in this Country will not forget what occured and how it
all came down.

I am not willing to turn the other cheek, most murderers don't go back into the world and remake a fortune. I cannot buy into bad
behavior, or 'a changed person'. I'd wager he would still be involved if he hadn't been caught. Please, for those dogs left now in the hands
of volunteer forever homes where the dogs are blind, earless, three legged, toothless...where is their justice? Imagine if you will, what was occuring with the dogs before the police became involved...and for how long...and so secretively.

As we give away our values for a ticket to a football game, we give away
our understanding of reality. Someone has to speak for the dogs. That would be me at the moment. Cheer him on if you must, but do not forget
what actally happened when he started betting on flesh.

I wish I could have said it as well as you just did!!! What kind of human does this and why do we make them our heroes? To win a GAME????

[Doodlegirl]

I know there are others out there who feel as we do.

[Figmo Bohica]

You bet cha. Somethings should not be given a second chance for. I refuse to watch any game that he plays in.

[jojoin]

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

Core values are difficult, if even possible, to change. He made $ on the dogs and he will make money on the pigskin. Animals seem to be his way of life. Maybe a dog loving quarterback on an opposite team will break his leg...err, of course, accidentally.

How in this world can anyone justify his salary based on how he enhanced his living.His PR team has him covered like jelly. Just remember when you are sitting in your living room during football season, and stand up and yell, "Way To Go, Vick"..you are sending a message to animal rights folks like me...some of whom carried the dying bodies of those dogs from their cages broken, bloody, and dead. And to thousands of kids who know what he did. To make him a hero is to dance with the devil, IMHO. Like many other major sports, its leaders have
momentum, but no heart. Hiring him 'back' is a dangerous message, cheering for him even worse.

[villagegolfer]

Originally Posted by tainsley

I too love animals, especially dogs...and was appalled by Vick's actions. But I believe he is remorseful about his past. He did his time and he will probably be judged the rest of his life. But I also believe everyone deserves a second chance!

Yes, I believe almost everybody deserves a second chance. (except pedophiles)

[ladydoc]

Originally Posted by Doodlegirl

I have been in rescue for more than 20 years. This was one of the worst situations for volunteer rescuers who often see difficult, dangerous, and deadly scenes. This was a family and friends affair for Michael Vick...who
first proclaimed innocence if you will remember. I would have been happy
if he had not been allowed to become a football player again after his release...and, in the scheme of things, he had a very short sentence. The
rescue community in this Country will not forget what occured and how it
all came down.

I am not willing to turn the other cheek, most murderers don't go back into the world and remake a fortune. I cannot buy into bad
behavior, or 'a changed person'. I'd wager he would still be involved if he hadn't been caught. Please, for those dogs left now in the hands
of volunteer forever homes where the dogs are blind, earless, three legged, toothless...where is their justice? Imagine if you will, what was occuring with the dogs before the police became involved...and for how long...and so secretively.

As we give away our values for a ticket to a football game, we give away
our understanding of reality. Someone has to speak for the dogs. That would be me at the moment. Cheer him on if you must, but do not forget
what actally happened when he started betting on flesh.

Very well said. I don't buy that he did not know what he was doing was wrong when he was doing it; therefore I don't believe he has "seen the light and repented." He just did not care. He cared that he got caught.

I watched every episode of the TV series about his dogs in rehab. THOSE dogs are the real heroes. To be able to learn to love and trust after what they have been through.