[Lyarham]

Originally Posted by mickey100

A bill was was recently signed into law by the governor of Florida which states healthcare professionals, including insurance companies , can't be forced to violate their religious and moral/conscience convictions in order to treat a patient. Florida healthcare can now be denied based on moral, ethical, or religious beliefs.Its not just doctors, its ambulance drivers, hospitals, nurses, insurance companies, etc. So a pharmacist could refuse to fill a prescription for birth control. A doctor or nurse could refuse to help deliver the baby of a single woman, due to her lifestyle choice. An ambulance driver could refuse to pick up a gay person with Aids. The law is extremely discriminatory against LGBTQ people. A gay person in a nursing home could find themselves at risk of losing health care services, for example. I find this absolutely horrifying that it is now legal in Florida for doctors and other health care professionals to deny health care to anyone simply because they feel like it. We should be increasing access to medical care, not giving these companies and providers the right to discriminate and opt out.

This is evil

[BlueStarAirlines]

Originally Posted by mickey100

A bill was was recently signed into law by the governor of Florida which states healthcare professionals, including insurance companies, can't be forced to violate their religious and moral/conscience convictions in order to treat a patient. Florida healthcare can now be denied based on moral, ethical, or religious beliefs.Its not just doctors, its ambulance drivers, hospitals, nurses, insurance companies, etc. So a pharmacist could refuse to fill a prescription for birth control. A doctor or nurse could refuse to help deliver the baby of a single woman, due to her lifestyle choice. An ambulance driver could refuse to pick up a gay person with Aids. The law is extremely discriminatory against LGBTQ people. A gay person in a nursing home could find themselves at risk of losing health care services, for example. I find this absolutely horrifying that it is now legal in Florida for doctors and other health care professionals to deny health care to anyone simply because they feel like it. We should be increasing access to medical care, not giving these companies and providers the right to discriminate and opt out.

Tell me you haven't read the bill without telling me you haven't read it....

[kenpoboy]

Slow down folks…..do you believe everything you read. I’m sure the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is somehow violated by this so called bill that was signed into law. Also, the hippocratic oath (taken by doctors) doesn’t allow them to pick and choose who they will treat. “Utmost respect for life” is part of the oath and this doesn’t sound like that.

[Life as I know it]

You never know, could be right around the corner because of the high medical costs refuse to threat anyone over the age of 75. So much hatred here.

[bluecenturian]

Calm down chicken little. Stop trying to instigate divisiveness. The bill says no such thing. Is still requires medical professionals to provide life saving care. It is pretty well angled at professionals refusing to be involved in abortion and gender transition care. If you are not happy here in Florida feel free to go somewhere else, I hear Sodom and Gomorrah has plenty of room. We won’t miss you or you ideas.

[GATORBILL66]

Originally Posted by mickey100

A bill was was recently signed into law by the governor of Florida which states healthcare professionals, including insurance companies, can't be forced to violate their religious and moral/conscience convictions in order to treat a patient. Florida healthcare can now be denied based on moral, ethical, or religious beliefs.Its not just doctors, its ambulance drivers, hospitals, nurses, insurance companies, etc. So a pharmacist could refuse to fill a prescription for birth control. A doctor or nurse could refuse to help deliver the baby of a single woman, due to her lifestyle choice. An ambulance driver could refuse to pick up a gay person with Aids. The law is extremely discriminatory against LGBTQ people. A gay person in a nursing home could find themselves at risk of losing health care services, for example. I find this absolutely horrifying that it is now legal in Florida for doctors and other health care professionals to deny health care to anyone simply because they feel like it. We should be increasing access to medical care, not giving these companies and providers the right to discriminate and opt out.

Sounds good to me also!

[Notsocrates]

Originally Posted by mickey100

A bill was was recently signed into law by the governor of Florida which states healthcare professionals, including insurance companies, can't be forced to violate their religious and moral/conscience convictions in order to treat a patient. Florida healthcare can now be denied based on moral, ethical, or religious beliefs.Its not just doctors, its ambulance drivers, hospitals, nurses, insurance companies, etc. So a pharmacist could refuse to fill a prescription for birth control. A doctor or nurse could refuse to help deliver the baby of a single woman, due to her lifestyle choice. An ambulance driver could refuse to pick up a gay person with Aids. The law is extremely discriminatory against LGBTQ people. A gay person in a nursing home could find themselves at risk of losing health care services, for example. I find this absolutely horrifying that it is now legal in Florida for doctors and other health care professionals to deny health care to anyone simply because they feel like it. We should be increasing access to medical care, not giving these companies and providers the right to discriminate and opt out.

It's obvious you are very upset about this. It should offer you some comfort to know that almost everything you list will not happen.

[Joe C.]

Originally Posted by RayMan

True...this works both ways... The LGBTQ community or any others denied healthcare can start doing the same to the old, white, ignorant, hateful people. Live and Let Live!!

True. But if I don't approve of what you do or approve of your lifestyle, then get off my front lawn and go play in someone else's sandbox.

[Wondering]

Originally Posted by mickey100

A bill was was recently signed into law by the governor of Florida which states healthcare professionals, including insurance companies, can't be forced to violate their religious and moral/conscience convictions in order to treat a patient. Florida healthcare can now be denied based on moral, ethical, or religious beliefs.Its not just doctors, its ambulance drivers, hospitals, nurses, insurance companies, etc. So a pharmacist could refuse to fill a prescription for birth control. A doctor or nurse could refuse to help deliver the baby of a single woman, due to her lifestyle choice. An ambulance driver could refuse to pick up a gay person with Aids. The law is extremely discriminatory against LGBTQ people. A gay person in a nursing home could find themselves at risk of losing health care services, for example. I find this absolutely horrifying that it is now legal in Florida for doctors and other health care professionals to deny health care to anyone simply because they feel like it. We should be increasing access to medical care, not giving these companies and providers the right to discriminate and opt out.

Florida, the "Freedom" State - what a joke. This is going down a slippery slope, much like Germany in the early 30's. Pathetic!

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by Boomer

“Healthcare at Risk”? This hate-based horror, including misogyny, goes well beyond the potential for risk.

So life and death decisions can now be based on nothing more than the subjectivity of anyone working at any level of healthcare?

This looks to me like it grants a “License to Kill.”

Hmmm, for those who jump on this law’s bandwagon, ya know…..there could be some working in healthcare who decide it’s time for old, white people in the hospital to go see Jesus….

Think! Please think!

Boomer

Oh all the fake drama, give me a break.

[petiteone]

Originally Posted by fishon

I’m not horrified. Sounds good to me.

As a retired physician, it sounds terrifying to me.

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by Cobullymom

Oh all the fake drama, give me a break.

You mean like the nation let millions die of COVID policies because of POLITICAL reasons? Firing Doctors, nurses, and other medical personnel because they refused a fake vaccine that didn't stop or prevent COVID, when most already had antibodies and worked through the worst days!! Forced to take a fake vaccine with known side effects that were covered up? Or maybe COVID treatments that were not allowed to be used or terrible medications that were given to people regardless of deadly side effects because it was the financial gain the hospitals were incentivised for, give me a break this drama is just absolutely Oscar nomination worthy...

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by John Mayes

Have you read the actual bill?

Oh you can bet not, just watched msnbc

[ehonour]

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[CoachKandSportsguy]

The following scenario is a futuristic scenario for debate purposes, the future is uncertain and this scenario may or may not play out in the future:

So, lets think about the execution implications of how the future might play out:

*Non emergency doctors have an option. .
OK, seems reasonable . .
*The assumption behind the bill is that there will always be someone willing to perform the desired service.
OK, maybe BUT if there is now only a LIMITED number of doctors performing the services, the price might rise, giving access ONLY to more affluent folks or the line could get very long for the service. .
OK, maybe, and then the only services available to you are ethnic services?

Since many objections are faith or religious based, will the questionable services become ethnic/religious only services? Will the ethnic services be of the same quality as the non discriminatory services? I have a florida colleague from south america, who doesn't trust any south florida hispanic/south american doctors, for their affinity to fraud.

I am not advocating any outcome, but thinking about future outcomes, could these outcomes or similar outcomes be the result? and is this the outcome you would like to see for grandchildren, and your great grandchildren?