[DaleMN]

It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder.

[vlm790]

I too will protect myself and my property should someone be stupid enough to enter my house wanting to hurt or steal from me. I have worked long and hard for what I have and no one will take it from me unless I want to give it to them. My persuader doesn't even require me to aim.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by DaleMN

It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder.

I don't think anyone has this desire.
However things happen:

Suspected Burglar Shot in the Groin by Homeowner | WBBJTV West Tennessee's News Channel | Local News

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by DaleMN

It appears some almost relish the thought of being able to use a firearm against an intruder.

...also, this is a good possibility when trying to use a firearm against an intruder:

Homeowner shot with own gun during Kingsburg robbery : News

http://www.guns.com/2013/09/28/dalla...g-house-video/

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/orti...urglary/ndT4d/

[eremite06]

The point of all this is anything can happen in a stressful situation. But the intruder has no idea of what awaits him and many are prepared.

I've got bear spray that marks him head to toe in orange, a .38 round and now my car keys. Thanks for the tip.

[Steve9930]

The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

[MikeV]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by MikeV

Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

Amen.

[twinklesweep]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Read the attached article.

Possessing a gun makes you less safe not more safe - Tulsa FBI | Examiner.com

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Happened just the other day:
Mom opens fire on home invaders in Detroit to defend children - WXYZ.com

Both these articles make valid points. Rather than responding emotionally, naming one view or the other as groundless and untrue, I am curious what would be the numbers of the first quoted article in relation to the numbers of the second one. That is, how many instances of firearm shootings and deaths for the various reasons cited in the first article (for example, accidental shootings, domestic violence, suicides, mass murders, and so forth) versus how many instances where a firearm successfully thwarted a burglar or robber. I'm not talking about law enforcement but rather ordinary citizens. I tried researching and was unsuccessful. Maybe someone who's more Internet-savvy could find this info, as it would be pretty revealing.

[twinklesweep]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

The debate on to have or not to have a gun goes on forever and really solves nothing. To prevent a robbery you need to take action before it occurs. You have to understand a few things about the people that will break into your home.

First they don't respect you otherwise they would not have broken into your home. They may be armed themselves. They maybe high on drugs. If it is in the middle of the night their senses are on a much higher level then yours. Remember you are waking up from sleep and how long in the morning does it take to get your bearings? So if you think your going to wakeup immediately and be John Wayne forget it. Also they do not like surprises. Most of them do not want a confrontation. However if they break in during the night while you are home they probably will attack you if you get in their way. There is a difference between the person that breaks in while no one is home and while some one is sleeping.

Here are a few points that may help:

One you need to be proactive. Secure your sliding door. This is a weak spot do it today. Doing it after the robbery is good but prevented nothing; only maybe the next robbery.

If your going to have contractors in your home don't leave valuable objects out where they can be seen easily. Some of these people may not be the ones that broke in but passed the information on to someone else.

Home Depot or Lowes have window and door alarms that you can install easily. Remember these people do not like surprises. A screeching alarm that goes off when the door is opened is going to scare that average burglar away. If it is the middle of the night it will also wake you and give you time to call 911 and grab the weapon of your choice. And don't go looking for the intruder! If you cannot get out find a good point in the room to take a defensive position. You are not John Wayne! And Please if you do have a gun do not go out to meet the police with the weapon in your hand!

Install security cameras in the house. If someone does breaks in at least you will have a picture of the intruder to give to the police.

Motion sensing lights outdoors are also excellent deterrents.

If you decide to own a gun for self protection. get professional training on how to use it! Practice with it often at the shooting range.

If you are in the back yard doing work. Secure your front door and your garage.

You must be vigilant every hour of every day because these people are looking for a victim and they do not take time off from their agenda. If you look like a target your are a target!

Originally Posted by MikeV

Finally some common sense. Well written and some very good advice. If you hate guns so much then don't own one. If you want one for self defense then get one and get trained. BUT, don't condemn those who opt to have one.

I agree too--finally some common sense rather than non-thinking emotional reaction. However, unless I'm missing something, I fail to see any "condemnation" in the posting or, for that matter, throughout the thread.

[billethkid]

setting aside the non value added discourse of possible negative isolated incidents stories....get back to the reality of the thread.

Keep in mind the following:

If an intruder consciously makes a decision to enter a premisis KNOWING someone may be inside, what do you think they have in mind if there is an encounter?????? They are obviously stupid (considered brave by some) or they are ready to deal with the encounter....what ever that may mean.

The car key fob is a good idea unless you have one of the newer cars that sounds more like the road runner than a panic! The air horn is a good idea as well. Each however mean to be prepared for the next reaction, if they decide not to flee. Remember they came in knowing you are there!

The best home defense is a 12 gage shot gun. My suggestion is to have the gun loaded without one in the chamber. Then when aroused smartly pick up the weapon, announce you are armed and simoltaneously rack the shotgun sliding a shell into the chamber. If after hearing you and or after hearing the racking of a shotgun, they have chosen not to flee....when they enter the room pull the trigger!!

Sounds harsh, cruel, inhumane, violent, et al.....most intruders will definitely flee, however......ANY intruder who procedes when hearing the VERY WELL KNOWN SOUND of a shotgun racking has no good intentions for your well being.

Home defense is not for anybody not prepared or trained to respond.

[buggyone]

"The best home defense is a 12 gage shot gun. My suggestion is to have the gun loaded without one in the chamber. Then when aroused smartly pick up the weapon, announce you are armed and simoltaneously rack the shotgun sliding a shell into the chamber. If after hearing you and or after hearing the racking of a shotgun, they have chosen not to flee....when they enter the room pull the trigger!!"

So, this loaded 12 gauge shotgun is under your bed or standing in the corner of your bedroom? Hopefully, if there are grandkids who come to visit, the shotgun will be disassembled.

You are not home and a burglar enters the house. He takes your loaded shotgun.

You wake up from a deep sleep, hearing a sound, still a little cobwebbed, rack the shotgun, and accidently shoot a family member.

All very possible situations. You could be in the right all the way and still have tragic results. Who knows?

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by buggyone

"The best home defense is a 12 gage shot gun. My suggestion is to have the gun loaded without one in the chamber. Then when aroused smartly pick up the weapon, announce you are armed and simoltaneously rack the shotgun sliding a shell into the chamber. If after hearing you and or after hearing the racking of a shotgun, they have chosen not to flee....when they enter the room pull the trigger!!"

So, this loaded 12 gauge shotgun is under your bed or standing in the corner of your bedroom? Hopefully, if there are grandkids who come to visit, the shotgun will be disassembled.

You are not home and a burglar enters the house. He takes your loaded shotgun.

You wake up from a deep sleep, hearing a sound, still a little cobwebbed, rack the shotgun, and accidently shoot a family member.

All very possible situations. You could be in the right all the way and still have tragic results. Who knows?

And your gas tank on your car could start leaking and when the furnace kicks on it could ignite the gas and burn your house down.
Or you could have a short in the electrical system that causes a surge and the next person to turn on the light draws all the voltage.
Or you could be a passenger on an airplane that makes an unscheduled STOP.

All very possible situations...... tragic results.

[buggyone]

Maybe it is just me, but I would not be "roflmao" at the possibility of a grandchild finding a loaded shotgun under the bed or the possibility of accidently shooting a family member.

'Nuffsaid on this topic. Next, please.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Maybe it is just me, but I would not be "roflmao" at the possibility of a grandchild finding a loaded shotgun under the bed or the possibility of accidently shooting a family member.

'Nuffsaid on this topic. Next, please.

The point being ignored is the anecdotes presented to make a point are about as likely to happen as counter examples presented.

I agree the merry go round is gaining speed...I am off it as well!