[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The post you quoted is 100% wrong. It is not fluid, in any way, shape or form.

The "month" for auto dealers ends on the "Last Reporting Day" of the month, per the manufacturers calendar. For internal accounting purposes, a dealer can do whatever he wants, but new car sales have always run on a monthly reporting cycle and are required to be reported that way.

All manufacturers in the US, require "monthly reporting" and they see monthly statements.

For internal purposes, *could* a dealer change his "accounting month"? Sort of, but it wouldn't really change the manufacturers' requirements regarding monthly reporting days (which is usually the first week day, after the end of the month).

Manufacturers will sometimes play with their "reporting month", internally.

Let's say the predicted #'s show that Honda is going to outsell Toyota for the month of October (because Toyota had a vehicle shortage). Toyota might finagle their October #'s because they already know they'll be #2 and move those sales into November, to show a huge "win".

None of that affects the dealer, because they are required to report all sales at the end of a calendar month (there are some nuances that have to do with the reporting [RDR cards]), but it's too esoteric for this discussion and not relevant.

I didn't say anything was fluid. I just said that, if the manufacturer wanted to define the month to end on a day other than the last day of the calendar month, they could.

[sowilts]

Originally Posted by CarlR33

Your loosing your azz on a new car either way so buy used and let others take the hit on a new car, IMO.

That’s the best advice. Agree and some extend the warranty.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

What's the point?

That automobile prices are negotiable, just like homes, repairs and most any big ticket items?

Not really they’re not going deal unless they get what they want.

[Rainger99]

Article on how to haggle.

How Much Can You Negotiate On a New Car - CarEdge

[Two Bills]

I have never purchased a new car, always looked for low mileage pristine used.
Refuse to take the tax hit on new.
The only new cars I drove were leased when working.
My present car was ridiculously low mileage, and in as new condition.
The price was absolutely right for the condition, so I never even tried to get anything off.
Did ask and get extras though. Had car ceramic coated, new winter floor mats, half a year's road tax, full tank of gas, and a limited edition model car for my grandson who was with me.
Dealer and I were both more than happy with the deal.
He got his price, and I got more in extras than I would have ever got off the car.

[spd2918]

I am a car geek. I have helped several non-automotive friends buy new cars. I help them find the right car for them (lots of test drives) and then i research current prices. When it come time to negotiate, they wait in the lounge.

I should offer my services for a modest fee. I bet for $250 I could save people thousands.

[Lindawc]

Can’t view it. Says the video is private.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by spd2918

I am a car geek. I have helped several non-automotive friends buy new cars. I help them find the right car for them (lots of test drives) and then i research current prices. When it come time to negotiate, they wait in the lounge.

I should offer my services for a modest fee. I bet for $250 I could save people thousands.

Dealers LOVE "car geeks". To steal a line from someone else's post, "the car geeks are playing checkers and the automobile dealers are playing chess".

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Lindawc

Can’t view it. Says the video is private.

See post 59. It was public when I posted it.

[spd2918]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Dealers LOVE "car geeks". To steal a line from someone else's post, "the car geeks are playing checkers and the automobile dealers are playing chess".

Could you explain your insult? I have been very sucessful negotiating deals for myself and others. If one believes TruCar stats, I paid the least of any reported buyer of a 2017 Ford F150 King Ranch.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by spd2918

Could you explain your insult? I have been very sucessful negotiating deals for myself and others. If one believes TruCar stats, I paid the least of any reported buyer of a 2017 Ford F150 King Ranch.

Sorry you felt insulted. After 50 years in the auto industry, I was merely pointing out the fact, that customers who identify themselves as "car geeks" are one of the industries favorite customers and generally, very easy to sell to.

Congratulations on your 2017 Ford Pickup!

As for TrueCar (I assume that's what you meant, as "TruCar" is a company in India, that doesn't really exist yet), I wouldn't recommend their stock. Their IPO went off at about $9/share if I remember correct and their business model fizzled and never caught on. Their stock has been under $3 for while.

[spd2918]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Sorry you felt insulted. After 50 years in the auto industry, I was merely pointing out the fact, that customers who identify themselves as "car geeks" are one of the industries favorite customers and generally, very easy to sell to.

Congratulations on your 2017 Ford Pickup!

As for TrueCar (I assume that's what you meant, as "TruCar" is a company in India, that doesn't really exist yet), I wouldn't recommend their stock. Their IPO went off at about $9/share if I remember correct and their business model fizzled and never caught on. Their stock has been under $3 for while.

You have a different idea of what a car geek is. TrueCar was a good company to show what people have actually paid for cars. I have never purchased thru them as I could always beat their best deals.

[keepsake]

Some dealers have monthly quotas. Go in on the 29th or 30th.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by CarlR33

Your loosing your azz on a new car either way so buy used and let others take the hit on a new car, IMO.

Bingo.

I've bought two new cars in my life; in 1972 and again in 1975 (well three actually: I bought the wife a new Toyota Rav4 for her retirement gift). Lightly used is always the best; they don't depreciate as fast (some actually appreciate in value), insurance is usually less and cash paid is always better than a loan. Just know what you want and what you want to pay, and know something about the vehicle you're looking at.