[samhass]

Originally Posted by redwitch

I've tried to respond to this post three times now. To murder any human is wrong. To murder a human because they have a certain job is obscene. I hope no one is making these cowards out to be heroes. At best, they are delusional young men trying to make a statement in all the wrong ways. At worst, they are cowardly animals who deserve the derision of their entire community.

I do understand the need for demonstrations and marches. I do not understand the need for rioting, the need to destroy, the desire to hurt. I agree with so little that Sharpton says. He is someone I would like to see with duct tape permanently slapped across his mouth.

I sincerely hope and pray that some honest dialogue comes out of all of this pain. Young men should not be harassed because of their skin color. Police officers deserve to be shown respect for their willingness to sacrifice themselves for civilians.

Well said, Redwitch.

[Tennisnut]

The only good thing is that this gang banger committed suicide and and his ex girl friend survived. Any remote connection of these murders as retribution for disturbing deaths of Trayvon and others is the murder taking advantage of those troubling act(s). I believe he had very little emotional investment in that piece of history and just wanted to kill for the sake of killing. If is was retribution, why were the victims a girl fiend, a Asian and Hispanic police officer?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

The only good thing is that this gang banger committed suicide and and his ex girl friend survived. Any remote connection of these murders as retribution for disturbing deaths of Trayvon and others is the murder taking advantage of those troubling act(s). I believe he had very little emotional investment in that piece of history and just wanted to kill for the sake of killing. If is was retribution, why were the victims a girl fiend, a Asian and Hispanic police officer?

Here is what he posted on Instagram just moments before he killed them.

""I'm Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours…Let's Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice #RIPErivGardner #RIPMikeBrown This May Be My Final Post I'm Putting Pigs In A Blanket"

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

The only good thing is that this gang banger committed suicide and and his ex girl friend survived. Any remote connection of these murders as retribution for disturbing deaths of Trayvon and others is the murder taking advantage of those troubling act(s). I believe he had very little emotional investment in that piece of history and just wanted to kill for the sake of killing. If is was retribution, why were the victims a girl fiend, a Asian and Hispanic police officer?

I agree with you. He was a mentally disturbed criminal who from inner rage or for whatever reason, felt like killing someone. I believe he was using current events as a convenient excuse to go on a rampage.

[rubicon]

Do you really believe that everything was honky dory before Martin,Brown, Garner. Politicians associated with a certain party have for political gain pandered to minorities supporting and reinforcing the belief that they have been and continue to be victims. Some like Sharpton and de Blasio capitalize on this myth. Some who have been told that their whole lives will always be left with that perception and hence its always going to be the other guys fault.
Those with this perception will react in the manner that fits their emotional state. One hope is that we have intelligent people like Thomas Sowell and Jason Riley.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I agree with you. He was a mentally disturbed criminal who from inner rage or for whatever reason, felt like killing someone. I believe he was using current events as a convenient excuse to go on a rampage.

I think he was enraged. I think that our leaders encouraged the climate of justifiable anger against law enforcement.

He may be sick....but those police officers would be alive today if the leadership of this country made it clear they stand by the enforcement of the law, for black and white and chartreuse and polka dot people in THIS country.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Here is what he posted on Instagram just moments before he killed them.

""I'm Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours…Let's Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice #RIPErivGardner #RIPMikeBrown This May Be My Final Post I'm Putting Pigs In A Blanket"

I still think he was using this as an outlet for some deep-seated anger issues. Otherwise, why shoot his girlfriend? What did she have to do with the "pigs" he referred to in instagram.

I believe he was just out to kill someone. The instagram thing was his "fun" little warning. He wasn't going for righting some social injustice, IMO. He was going on a kill thrill.

[Tennisnut]

I guess we have a difference of opinion. Some believe this gang banger was actually responding to some perceived idea of social injustice and sacrificed his life to bring awareness to society. I would not give him least bit of credit to some higher idealism. I think he was just piece crap that tried to kill three innocent people with a long history of violence.

[Chi-Town]

The unthinkable thing is that ambush killings aren't all that uncommon.

http://usat.ly/1AUOs1r

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I guess we have a difference of opinion. Some believe this gang banger was actually responding to some perceived idea of social injustice and sacrificed his life to bring awareness to society. I would not give him least bit of credit to some higher idealism. I think he was just piece crap that tried to kill three innocent people with a long history of violence.

I do not think ANYONE believes or even hinted that this killer was associated with or even cared about what has happened the last few months. I think the thread dealt with the atmosphere that has been created in the last few months by the insinuations, statements and lack of support. It allows folks like this to have a cause (in their mind) and in their mind a justification.

I, for one, certainly do not believe that idealism played any part. I DO believe the current atmosphere contributed, although I cannot read his mind, only read his statements which I do understand could be just his insane reason, and maybe had this atmosphere not existed it could have been something else, or maybe it would not have happened. I just pray it is the last.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I think YOU must be ME. I believe this murderer had long history of hatred and disrespect for everyone which has not been encouraged by the leaders of this country. I believe it is disrespectful to those leaders to insinuate that have added to the climate where gang bangers are encouraged to kill someone. However, these leaders are taking the steps to investigate and try to improve the performance of those who are here to protect and serve.

I do not believe anyone encouraged anyone to kill anyone (although some of the chants in DC were specific)

I do know that a town in Missouri would not have been burned to the ground if they had not been encouraged, or better said perhaps.....if they had been discouraged and asked to wait for facts and use the law to find solutions. THAT I believe.

Dr King certainly would have done that loudly. Instead there was encouragement.

All of this sets a tone for sure.