[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

I find it interesting that most of the anti-gun group hasn't weighed in on this.

Some of us don't see the need to have a gun. That doesn't mean we are against anyone who wants one to have one. I am not anti-gun.

I see absolutely not one reason to carry a gun in The Villages, unless you are paranoid, obsessive or are having a serotonin low. Now if that changes, (the safe atmosphere of The Villages,) I will change too.

I am grateful to be be able to say what I just did, I like all of the amendments to the Constitution....especially the First one...

[graciegirl]

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[downeaster]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Some of us don't see the need to have a gun. That doesn't mean we are against anyone who wants one to have one. I am not anti-gun.

I see absolutely not one reason to carry a gun in The Villages, unless you are paranoid, obsessive or are having a serotonin low. Now if that changes, (the safe atmosphere of The Villages,) I will change too.

I am grateful to be be able to say what I just did, I like all of the amendments to the Constitution....especially the First one...

Well said, Gracie. I had to go to the dictionary with serotonin to make sure I totally agreed.

[red tail]

its what gracie was having during the casey anthony trial

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by BobKat1

I can't say for sure, but maybe some folks getting "gun" thread fatigue.

That may be true but when a madman has an hour and a half to walk around shooting kids and no one is nearby with a gun to stop him, I understand the need to say.. maybe disarming citizens is a bad idea.
JJ

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by chuckinca

also, no police were on the island.

the killer had more than one gun; maybe it is a mistake that everyone doesn't carry ten guns just in case.


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One gun would have been enough to have a chance. Why did you say TEN guns? Do you have to extremely exaggerate your point to have it make any sense? Must be because your point is weak without the exaggeration.
JJ

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Some of us don't see the need to have a gun. That doesn't mean we are against anyone who wants one to have one. I am not anti-gun.

I see absolutely not one reason to carry a gun in The Villages, unless you are paranoid, obsessive or are having a serotonin low. Now if that changes, (the safe atmosphere of The Villages,) I will change too.

I am grateful to be be able to say what I just did, I like all of the amendments to the Constitution....especially the First one...

Gracie: I am sorry to say but gun crimes are not just committed at "unsafe" locations. I am sure the families of those kids in Norway thought that the island their kids was on was perfectly safe. Same with McDonalds and other fast food places where mass murders have occurred. how about at the Columbine school? Same with outside a Safeway store in Arizona where Gabby Giffords was shot.. Same with the many murder cases I was involved in as a prosecutor and defense attorney.. several shot in their homes by young punk robbers, while handing out trick or treats, in their cars driving down the street, There is no such thing as a safe place.
I wish you were right that there are safe places. What about the couple who were shot in the Villages by their daughter's friend?
People do not have to be paranoid, obsessive or are having a serotonin low to want to be able to protect themselves. Police rarely are able to protect people... the fast majority of the time they arrive after the crime as been committed.
Many people in TV are armed.. you just do not know about it.. and I really really like you, but you made a mistake and should apologize to them.
I am not trying to hurt your feelings, but I sincerely think your logic is unfair to a lot of people, especially your statement about them being paranoid, obsessive,, or are having a serotonin low..
I do not believe you really meant that.
Did you?
JJ

[nitakk]

It never ceases to amaze me that the American answer to gun violence is to get more guns - if you have one, I'll get two. Is that really the answer, or is there something wrong with society as a whole that this is what people resort to? America has been world-famous (and not in a good way) for our gun violence and Europe has been relatively unscathed until now. There are quite a few European countries that don't arm their police and it has worked fine up to this point. Having lived overseas for a number of years, I asked Europeans what they thought of Americans and the answer I got repeatedly was pretty sad - we were all fat and owned lots of guns.

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by nitakk

It never ceases to amaze me that the American answer to gun violence is to get more guns - if you have one, I'll get two. Is that really the answer, or is there something wrong with society as a whole that this is what people resort to? America has been world-famous (and not in a good way) for our gun violence and Europe has been relatively unscathed until now. There are quite a few European countries that don't arm their police and it has worked fine up to this point. Having lived overseas for a number of years, I asked Europeans what they thought of Americans and the answer I got repeatedly was pretty sad - we were all fat and owned lots of guns.

31 years of working in the criminal justice system showed me why I need to be able to protect myself, not just with a gun, but also with my mind.
JJ

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by JimJoe

Gracie: I am sorry to say but gun crimes are not just committed at "unsafe" locations. I am sure the families of those kids in Norway thought that the island their kids was on was perfectly safe. Same with McDonalds and other fast food places where mass murders have occurred. how about at the Columbine school? Same with outside a Safeway store in Arizona where Gabby Giffords was shot.. Same with the many murder cases I was involved in as a prosecutor and defense attorney.. several shot in their homes by young punk robbers, while handing out trick or treats, in their cars driving down the street, There is no such thing as a safe place.
I wish you were right that there are safe places. What about the couple who were shot in the Villages by their daughter's friend?
People do not have to be paranoid, obsessive or are having a serotonin low to want to be able to protect themselves. Police rarely are able to protect people... the fast majority of the time they arrive after the crime as been committed.
Many people in TV are armed.. you just do not know about it.. and I really really like you, but you made a mistake and should apologize to them.
I am not trying to hurt your feelings, but I sincerely think your logic is unfair to a lot of people, especially your statement about them being paranoid, obsessive,, or are having a serotonin low..
I do not believe you really meant that.
Did you?
JJ

When you invite drug users into your home you are asking for trouble.

[GeorgeT]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

When you invite drug users into your home you are asking for trouble.

Never-the less. It happened here and could happen again.

[JimJoe]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

When you invite drug users into your home you are asking for trouble.

Does that include the couple who were shot by a trick or treater on Halloween? Or the home invasion victims.. or the cashiers who are murdered while at work.. or etc etc..

I agree that there are things you can do to be safer.. but NEVER.. NEVER blame the victim of a violent crime..
What a shame.
JJ

[villagegolfer]

Originally Posted by nitakk

It never ceases to amaze me that the American answer to gun violence is to get more guns - if you have one, I'll get two. Is that really the answer, or is there something wrong with society as a whole that this is what people resort to? America has been world-famous (and not in a good way) for our gun violence and Europe has been relatively unscathed until now. There are quite a few European countries that don't arm their police and it has worked fine up to this point. Having lived overseas for a number of years, I asked Europeans what they thought of Americans and the answer I got repeatedly was pretty sad - we were all fat and owned lots of guns.

I do not believe that know more then I believe that all French have terrible body odor and are cowards.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by nitakk

It never ceases to amaze me that the American answer to gun violence is to get more guns.......

There are quite a few European countries that don't arm their police and it has worked fine up to this point. Having lived overseas for a number of years, I asked Europeans what they thought of Americans and the answer I got repeatedly was pretty sad - we were all fat and owned lots of guns.

Let's see. What some Europeans (how many?) said was "we were all fat and owned lots of guns".

Maybe some of us would like to ask them is, "How long have you lived in or visited the USA?"....."If you've never been there, where do you get your information on all of American society?"......."How many Americans have you spoken with directly and in person (you know, to size them up physically)?"......"What television channels and internet sites informed your stereotype that all Americans are fat, gun-toting hicks?"

Gimme a break.

[Bogie Shooter]

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