[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

We were also on a cruise to the Western Caribbean and had a wonderful time. People were happy, carefree and having fun. We were eating in the dining rooms and attending the shows. The ports were beautiful and we saw lots of passengers from other ships in the ports, as well. No one was worried about COVID, not even a little bit. No one was getting sick that we saw, either. Not long after we returned home they shut down the port. Crazy.

I am NOT going to cruise if there are mask or vaccine mandates. Forget that. It is a total overreaction by the CDC.

You never know what the future may bring so there may be an opportunity for you to cruise with no vaccine and no masks in the distant future. Enjoy land vacations in the meantime.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

I am aware of the article. So are unvaccinated people going to be wearing tattoos on their foreheads or be distinguished somehow on the ships? I don’t think so, and don’t expect to see masks on cruises. For those who are concerned, they shouldn’t cruise.

The tattoo remark is not appreciated.

At this point in time, it looks as though the CDC will require masking and distancing on cruises that have greater than 5% un-vaccinated passengers and greater than 2% un-vaccinated crew. On these cruises, ALL passengers, vaccinated or not, will have to wear masks so no need for a way to identify the un-vaccinated. All passengers will have to adhere to the restrictive protocols.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

Is he letting airlines fly people to places that require vaccines where that needs to be provided before boarding here in FL? This is no different, and at the time the law was signed there was no cruising, thus there was no specific mention of them. Their are exceptions such as air travel and it will be the same for cruise ships. All will be fine, and the first ship leaves out of FL this month.

DeSantis has made public statements that he will not make an exception for cruise lines to request proof of vaccination. He has backed himself into a corner and will have to save face somehow to allow these cruise lines to operate according to CDC guidelines.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

The tattoo remark is not appreciated.

At this point in time, it looks as though the CDC will require masking and distancing on cruises that have greater than 5% un-vaccinated passengers and greater than 2% un-vaccinated crew. On these cruises, ALL passengers, vaccinated or not, will have to wear masks so no need for a way to identify the un-vaccinated. All passengers will have to adhere to the restrictive protocols.

That doesn’t sound like much fun. Many won’t cruise until that changes so it looks like the cruise industry is still in trouble.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

You never know what the future may bring so there may be an opportunity for you to cruise with no vaccine and no masks in the distant future. Enjoy land vacations in the meantime.

We will cruise to/from destinations that have no mask/vaccine requirement. If that limits the places that we can travel to, then so be it. I do not want to go to places that would require such restrictions. Vacations are supposed to be carefree, enjoyable and fun. But feel free to work on that mask tan line if that's your idea of a good time.

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

I am aware of the article. So are unvaccinated people going to be wearing tattoos on their foreheads or be distinguished somehow on the ships? I don’t think so, and don’t expect to see masks on cruises. For those who are concerned, they shouldn’t cruise.

so the unvaccinated people's rights are important, but the vaccinted ones aren't. the other side of the coin is, if you don't want to get vaccinated, then don't cruise. I suspect cruise lines will book more people if they can have the vaccinated requirement.

[Boilerman]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

Is he letting airlines fly people to places that require vaccines where that needs to be provided before boarding here in FL? This is no different, and at the time the law was signed there was no cruising, thus there was no specific mention of them. Their are exceptions such as air travel and it will be the same for cruise ships. All will be fine, and the first ship leaves out of FL this month.

You’re right, all will be fine and the first cruise ships will leave Florida when DeSantis backs down, creates an exception to the new Florida law that allows cruises to require passengers to be vaccinated. He hasn’t done that yet, but will have to save face and not shut down the Florida cruise industry.

[RedChariot]

The anti-vaxxers are getting tiresome. Do you not care about the greater good?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by RedChariot

The anti-vaxxers are getting tiresome. Do you not care about the greater good?

You will need to distinguish between the anti-vaxxers who encourage others to not get the vaccine and the pro-privacy folks who may or may not get the vaccine but strongly feel that businesses and the government have no right to inquire.

I don't want to know about your Covid vaccine status any more than I want to know about your measles status, HIV status, or the results of your most recent colonoscopy. There are precautions and if I am taking the precautions that I need to take then your status does not affect me. I encourage you to take the precautions you need to take and respect my privacy.

[RedChariot]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You will need to distinguish between the anti-vaxxers who encourage others to not get the vaccine and the pro-privacy folks who may or may not get the vaccine but strongly feel that businesses and the government have no right to inquire.

I don't want to know about your Covid vaccine status any more than I want to know about your measles status, HIV status, or the results of your most recent colonoscopy. There are precautions and if I am taking the precautions that I need to take then your status does not affect me. I encourage you to take the precautions you need to take and respect my privacy.

Yawn

[bilcon]

Ready to go. Booked a cruise for September, but not from Florida. Getting back some of my money they have held for over a year. Got the J&J vaccine and did not feel a thing. No big deal. Hope our governor can get the local ports open soon. I wonder how much the politicians have invested in the mask business. Had Covid in January and ever with some prior health problems, it was no where near the s--- I went through when I had the Hong Kong flu. Let's take back our freedoms. Sorry for ranting.

"I have never made a mistake in my life. I thought I did once, but I was wrong."

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

DeSantis needs to save face, that is for sure.

I have no doubt he'll do the right thing.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I was going to say that but I figured Joe must already know that. Right? If not, where has he been since March 2020? I'm sure he is aware we have been dealing with a 100 year Global pandemic. Right? LOL.

You talkin' 'bout Joe, where am I?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

I have no doubt he'll do the right thing.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Is Crafting A Cruise Line Exemption For His Vaccine Passport Ban

"And on a recent earnings call, Frank Del Rio, CEO of Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings said, “It is a classic state versus federal government issue. Legally, lawyers believe that federal law applies and not state law, but I’m not a lawyer.”"

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

We will cruise to/from destinations that have no mask/vaccine requirement. If that limits the places that we can travel to, then so be it. I do not want to go to places that would require such restrictions. Vacations are supposed to be carefree, enjoyable and fun. But feel free to work on that mask tan line if that's your idea of a good time.

I won't be cruising on any ship that requires masking because of un-vaccinated passengers or crew on board. I opt for cruises that offer 100% vaccinated crew and passengers on board. There will be no restrictions on those cruises at this point in time so no masking or distancing required. Celebrity and NCL are offering 100% vaccinated cruises so far. They will be the lines to get our cruise vacation dollars at this point in time.