[MarkinMd]

Not naming any specific posters but I believe some are trying to be so " open-minded " that their brains fell out.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by MarkinMd

Not naming any specific posters but I believe some are trying to be so " open-minded " that their brains fell out.

That's an accurate, and very pithy way to put it.

[TexaninVA]

Sadly, it must be an immutable facet of human nature … we have to experience something “bad” before we learn how to obviate a problem that’s complex to deal with… which is to say to take relatively small actions now to avoid bigger problems or issues in the future.

This applies to the CIA “torture” debate. (It’s not legally torture but who cares at this point given the media hype). It is UNDENIABLE that enhance interrogation techniques (EIT) yielded “actionable intelligence”. The best example is the tip from KSM that ultimately led to Bin Laden getting the opportunity to meet Seal Team Six face to face. But another example has to do with preventing an attack on West Coast cities.

So, Dianne Feinstein’s home state dodged an attack because the CIA water boarded KSM and Abu Zubaydah. Kind of ironic, huh? Does anyone really, truly have a problem with this? Would it have been better to have a few thousand dead Americans and a smoldering building or two? What if, for example, one or your kids or grandkids would have been killed in such an attack? Would you still say “we’re America and we don’t waterboard because it’s really bad etc”

I didn’t think so.

The other point is EIT is not used on every prisoner, just the tough to crack cases. Using the Army Field Manual technique is fine for low level conscripts …think Iraqi Army or something. But, in a hard core organization like AQ or ISIS the top guys have the intel and they are TRAINED to resisted interrogation. Thus, if you don’t use EIT you don’t get the intel and in some cases, you get dead Americans as a result. Does anyone want that?

At some point, reality has to intrude and we as a nation need to grow up and get real. In the meantime and until that happens, I have a suggestion. Let’s get the Senate staffers (most of them lawyers) who wrote this partisan report, dress them in camo gear, grease paint on their faces and parachute them into enemy territory so they can sue the bad guys into submission.

[TOTV Team]

Unfortunately too many users have taken this into a political thread that now has to be closed.