[Rags123]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Let me clarify something right away. I quickly scanned tennisnuts post and misunderstood his intent for a second. On a quick first reading I thought he implied that Hitler made a mistake by not killing all the Jews. I just didn't see where he wrote "sick thought" at the bottom. What Tennisnut is saying, and saying quite clearly is that to advocate killing all Muslims, whether they are terrorists or not is the same ignorant evil that was represented by the Nazis and bY ISIS. I AGREE WITH HIS SENTIMENT 100%! I am the original poster of this thread, and I am becoming quite uncomfortable with some of the replies I am seeing here. When I see posts advocating the killing of our enemies wives and children, I can't help but feel we have crossed a line and I am going to ask the moderator to close this thread.

With all due respect, your OP was simply a cut and paste with no credits given and you only pasted part of the article. This simply opened the subject and folks simply responded to the ISIS part. I am not sure what your intent was at all, but for the record, this is what you did not paste but which belongs to the article....

" Everyone I have spoken with has expressed their frustration with the international community’s lack of response to the crisis facing the people of Iraq. They blamed the United States for creating the current situation and for leaving the country so quickly and so creating the vacuum for IS to exploit. Many also think that it was a serious mistake for the U.S. to “give Iraq to Iran,” allowing Tehran to have a major influence in the Iraqi Parliament.

Another local told me he thought it was strange and nonsensical that the U.S. and European countries were opposed to IS in Iraq, but supporting IS groups in Syria and other violent groups against local governments. They warned of the danger such groups pose to the West. “These jihadists will eventually go home to their countries, to Canada, England and the U.S.” said one.

Christians also fear that Iraq may split into several smaller countries, creating a domino effect in the Middle East, including Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Turkey, Israel, and Egypt.

Since 2003, more than 1 million Christians have been exiled from Iraq. Now, only 300,000 remain in the country."

Not criticizing your OP, but suggesting that putting these things in context means a lot and perhaps the responses would be more in line in what you anticipated. The below sites ALL have this.........

Mad World NewsMuslims Just Made History in Mosul, Killing and Exiling Every Last Christian

Muslims Just Made History In Mosul, Killing And Exiling Every Last Christian – Universal Free Press

universalfreepress.com/muslims-just-made-history-in-mosul-killing-and-exiling-every-last-christian/

These are just a few sites..there are others.

I am just defending the conversation....there was not context nor direction nor any comments by the original poster.


PS....actually, your beginning is a quote from Martin Niemöller referring to the German cowardice toward the Nazis.

[billethkid]

democracy allows for all types opinions and positions even though they may be totally disagreeable to some or another.

Thread should remain open to allow all comments, positive or not in support or not. There is always room for a minority report.....like it or not.

[rp001]

Some folks here are in fear. I, for one am not, but I do see a need to address this. This should be a well thought out approach and have the support of all the American people. In the past we have done knee jerk responses and that is why we are in this mess internationally.

As in the movie Godfather, when you kill one, you create several new enemies, the children. From what I've gathered this group is composed of about 10000, mostly young, and mostly nothing more than thugs. The solution is to go after the money, and the leaders along with the ones they are listening too. I don't care what country they are in. All a war creates is generals, heroes, and new enemies!

[nitehawk]

the united states is fighting a war it can not win -- sorry to say --- all of the ships and tanks - fighter planes are antiquated - terrorism and cyber attacks is the wars of the future and the united states is not winning - i will stop now as anything else will be take down

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by rp001

Some folks here are in fear. I, for one am not, but I do see a need to address this. This should be a well thought out approach and have the support of all the American people. In the past we have done knee jerk responses and that is why we are in this mess internationally.

As in the movie Godfather, when you kill one, you create several new enemies, the children. From what I've gathered this group is composed of about 10000, mostly young, and mostly nothing more than thugs. The solution is to go after the money, and the leaders along with the ones they are listening too. I don't care what country they are in. All a war creates is generals, heroes, and new enemies!

Old or young, rich or poor, we are all Americans and we are ALL in danger.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This seems like getting off of one issue and on to another which IS political. Let's not debate wealth. War is hell and should be avoided at almost all costs.

This one has to be fought.


Old or young, rich or poor, we are all Americans and we are ALL in danger.

I think you may have misread rp001's post that prompted your scold.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by rp001

Some folks here are in fear. I, for one am not, but I do see a need to address this. This should be a well thought out approach and have the support of all the American people. In the past we have done knee jerk responses and that is why we are in this mess internationally.

As in the movie Godfather, when you kill one, you create several new enemies, the children. From what I've gathered this group is composed of about 10000, mostly young, and mostly nothing more than thugs. The solution is to go after the money, and the leaders along with the ones they are listening too. I don't care what country they are in. All a war creates is generals, heroes, and new enemies!

Regarding knee jerks...apparently US intelligence has tracked ISIS for at least a year....yawn....?
What will ever have "support of all american..." We elect as you know. Can't say more.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

I think you may have misread rp001's post that prompted your scold.

I may have misread rp100's point. I will try to see it differently.

I think you are right and she is right and I apologize.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I may have misread rp100's post. I will try to see it differently.

I think you are right and she is right and I apologize.

Gracie, you are right, she is wrong. There is evil that rivals good.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

the united states is fighting a war it can not win -- sorry to say --- all of the ships and tanks - fighter planes are antiquated - terrorism and cyber attacks is the wars of the future and the united states is not winning - i will stop now as anything else will be take down

I disagree. The United States could easily win any war if the military leaders were told to do so.
The war(s) cannot and never will be won by arm chair politicans whose objectives do not include winning.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

the united states is fighting a war it can not win -- sorry to say --- all of the ships and tanks - fighter planes are antiquated - terrorism and cyber attacks is the wars of the future and the united states is not winning - i will stop now as anything else will be take down

I would agree that we cannot win using only traditional weapons of war. We cannot bomb them into extinction and planes and tanks alone will not win this kind of war. We have entered a new age as far as waging war is concerned. Much of this war that will take place covertly. Things will happen that we will never know about. But, this has always been the case with wars. Intelligence and covert operations were also critical to winning WWI and WWII but not as much as they are today.

But, I disagree that we cannot win this war. We have access to the greatest minds and technology on the planet. We also have strong allies with this same knowledge and we are strong with traditional weapons as well as boots on the ground which will have to play some part in defeating ISIS.

I will say that you may be right in that this is a war that can never be completely won by anyone. We can destroy ISIS, we can decimate al-Qaeda, we can knock out the Taliban, but other terrorists groups will rise up to take their place. I'm afraid that the world will be in a permanent state of war from now on. It's not unlike our domestic "war on crime".
We will always be fighting crime, but we will never be totally rid of crime, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't stop fighting crime.

[chachacha]

we must all take a deep breath, quiet our minds and affirm "Be still, and know that I am God". there will be many things out of our control, but two things we CAN do are PRAY and VOTE for the leaders whom we believe will take action to protect us as far as possible. the rest is left to destiny.