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Old 10-28-2014, 07:41 PM
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State Department plans to bring foreign Ebola patients to U.S.
By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Updated: 8:13 p.m. on Tuesday, October 28, 2014
The State Department has quietly made plans to bring Ebola-infected doctors and medical aides to the U.S. for treatment, according to an internal department document that argued the only way to get other countries to send medical teams to West Africa is to promise the U.S. will be the world's medical backstop.

Some countries "are implicitly or explicitly waiting for medevac assurances" before they will agree to send their own medical teams to join U.S. and U.N. aid workers on the ground, the State Department argues in the undated four-page memo, which was reviewed by The Washington Times.

"The United States needs to show leadership and act as we are asking others to act by admitting certain non-citizens into the country for medical treatment for Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) during the Ebola crisis," says the four-page memo, which lists Office of International Health and Biodefense Deputy Director Robert Sorenson as its author.

More than 10,000 people have become infected with Ebola in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, and the U.S. has taken a lead role in arguing the pandemic must be stopped over there. President Obama has committed thousands of U.S. troops and has deployed American medical personnel, but other countries have been slow to follow.

In the memo, officials say they would prefer patients go to Europe, but there are some cases where the U.S. is "the logical treatment destination for non-citizens."

The document has been shared with Congress, where lawmakers were already nervous over the administration's handling of the Ebola outbreak. The memo even details expected price per patient, saying transport costs come to $200,000 and treatment is estimated at $300,000 per case.

A State Department official denied there are plans to bring non-citizen patients to the U.S., saying……."

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Old 10-28-2014, 07:42 PM
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So what is it that we, the American Citizens, have the power to do? This just keeps getting more crazy! I can't believe Obama would have to power to make such risky, perhaps deadly decisions.
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Predication.

This will be brought out by the current administration to bring patients to this country for treatment. There will be an uprising of elected officials against this as a dumb idea, which it is, and than they can point the finger at the opposition party as being insensitive to those in need, not caring about the poor people inflicted with this terrible disease.

This is a political finger pointing issue only. I just can not believe how divided we have become as a nation. Pure insanity.

I believe we should do everything we are capable of doing to help those folks and send any volunteers, medicine, knowledge, skills, help that we can send. We should not bring anyone here. In fact we should do as the rest of the sane world has done and ban flights to the US from those countries.
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This is the first time I have done this, contact the White House with my views;

It is easy.

Here's the link;

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Old 10-29-2014, 06:49 AM
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This is the first time I have done this, contact the White House with my views;

It is easy.

Here's the link;

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I heard that the White gets their news from televised news like we do. We would have to be in the street protesting with signs...
Had we have not been out there for the past year protesting nonsense would it have made a difference? I wonder.
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Old 10-29-2014, 07:29 AM
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This is the first time I have done this, contact the White House with my views;

It is easy.

Here's the link;

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Kudos to you Gracie but I have contacted them several times and each time receive the same form letter response; however, it's better than doing nothing and stewing in it.
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...and this memo "from the State Dept" has been approved by the White House?

Nothing I read had any confirmation from the President.
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...and this memo "from the State Dept" has been approved by the White House?

Nothing I read had any confirmation from the President.
No. Apparently not.

But I felt my radar go up after the lead physician at Emory University seemed to me to be laying some kind of ground work when he spoke at the press conference celebrating the Texas nurse being free of the Ebola virus.

I really, really, admire the work done there and am very proud of their efforts. He explained that they had used some methods; dialysis and breathing assistance considered "extreme" and " not needed" by the CDC and that they had worked.

Afterward CNN's Sanjay Gupta commented that he did not know this. But today Sanjay Gupta commented that he did not feel a quarantine was necessary. I am just a little skeptical of everyone's decisions on this issue with so little experience, even though at this point we are doing "quite well" in saving five lives out of six.. A medical issue is now a political football and as I said before, it would have been better handled by a medical person in my opinion...but there are medical people and medical people. Few "experts" exist on this disease.

Kaci Hickox has once again been on the news saying that she planned to ignore the quarantine. She may be skilled in medicine, but has very little skill in social interaction or teaching or being diplomatic or making her point. She isn't doing any good for Doctors Without Borders in my view. By the way the decisions made by Doctors Without Borders are NOT made in the U.S. It is a French Organization.

I really am turned off by Kaci Hickox...
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Kaci Hickox has once again been on the news saying that she planned to ignore the quarantine. She may be skilled in medicine, but has very little skill in social interaction or teaching or being diplomatic or making her point. She isn't doing any good for Doctors Without Borders in my view. By the way the decisions made by Doctors Without Borders are NOT made in the U.S. It is a French Organization.

I really am turned off by Kaci Hickox...
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A little off subject but the conspirators of One World Order wants the population to be reduced by 5.5 billion people so this is their chance. Now dont tell no one has read about this before.
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Kaci Hickox has once again been on the news saying that she planned to ignore the quarantine. She may be skilled in medicine, but has very little skill in social interaction or teaching or being diplomatic or making her point. She isn't doing any good for Doctors Without Borders in my view. By the way the decisions made by Doctors Without Borders are NOT made in the U.S. It is a French Organization.

I really am turned off by Kaci Hickox...
Gracie, I agree! I read that if she does ignore the quarantine, the authorities in Maine might take legal action and force her to. She sure is creating an name for herself, quite different than one she would have just for being a hero and going to the Hot Zone and helping the sick. What a shame! She's almost an insult to all the other medical professionals. Thinking as I write this, I wonder at what point she was in contact with the attorney? I wonder if the attorney contacted her in order to get national recognition. ??? This just doesn't seem like the behavior of a nurse who went to W Africa to help out in a crisis.

I don't know what it is, but I suspect there is another agenda at play here.

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Old 10-29-2014, 10:02 AM
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Could it possibly (probably) be that no other network will present it because IT IS NOT TRUE?
That is one way to look at it. Yeah I am sure they became number one in ratings and viewership by making it up...that's gotta be it.

Coincidentally their views also happen to follow the majority of the polls and the mood and feeling of the American people.

All one has to do is stay informed on what is happening or not in the world these days and then pay close attention to what is reported (more not reported) by the network news. Then for additional correlation review some of the foreign news networks.

It becomes obvous in very short order the agenda of the main stream alphabet news networks.

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Old 10-29-2014, 10:59 AM
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When a medical or other professional licensed in a state, they are required to obey state health laws! If a licensee disobeys and knowingly and publicly defies state law, their license is usually subject to Disciplinary Action and possible suspension/revocation.

Also, if the professional is licensed and is disciplined/suspended/revoked in one state, they are subject to Disciplinary Action in another state where their license allows them to practice.

Traci Hickox openly disobeying and defying a state health department mandate in Maine, should be walking on thin ice for licensure, if she still holds a current one. But maybe she doesn't need a state nursing license, because she worked for the CDC as an Epidemic Intelligence Service Officer:

"Hickox is an official CDC Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) officer who performed work for the CDC in recent months.

Hickox was a Class of 2012 member of CDC’s two-year EIS officer training program, according to the official program for CDC’s 2014 EIS Conference (p. 98), which was held from April 28 to May 1, 2014. Hickox was featured in a photograph in the program.

Hickox was listed as an “EIS officer” for the CDC in program materials for a CDC course she taught in July 2014. She was specifically listed as an active “EIS officer” as recently as July 18, 2014, according to CDC documents.

Hickox was a presenter at the CDC conference this spring, according to the program’s list of presenters (p. 103).

Hickox taught an April 29 session called “Contact Investigation of Health Care Personnel Exposed to Maternal and Neonatal Tuberculosis—Clark County, Nevada, 2013″ at the conference (p. 3)…."

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A thought occurred to me. Which in itself is rather remarkable.

The thinking is that medical personnel will be hesitant to volunteer if they might get quarantined when they return.

If I volunteer to spend time in Africa and risk my life to help stop this disease, am I really going to be too concerned about a 3 week quarantine when I get back home?
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Old 10-29-2014, 12:39 PM
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Here is another for the pile of ebola nonsense. POTUS has declared that yes indeed the soldiers returning from Africa will in fact be subject to a 21 day quarantine when they return; however, civilians will not be because they volunteered to go to Africa whereas the soldier were on a mission. Now I guess this makes sense in his mind, but for the life of me can't understand why someone that was sent on a mission and not directly working with the infected are considered to be more of a threat then the volunteers directly working with the patients. And yes, I heard it first on FOX news.
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