[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by pqrstar

Carl in Tampa wrote
"The cost of a reading is $200."
"Now, this $70,000 of potential income may not be a fortune . . ."

From her website Suzanne Giesemann | Messenger of Hope one can read all about her.

"EACH YEAR SUZANNE DONATES INCOME FROM HER READINGS TO CHARITY IN MEMORY OF HER STEP-DAUGHTER, SERGEANT SUSAN MARIE GIESEMANN "

As well, it's my understanding that Suzanne only does readings one morning a week.
I don't know how Carl has extrapolated that to be $70,000 per year.
Perhaps Carl knows the details of her schedule; I don't.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

The title of this thread asks the question, " Can people really contact dead people's spirits?"
Penn & Teller, the professional magicians and illusionists, say No.

Suzanne Giesemann is an evidence-based medium. Penn & Teller are not, they are illusionists.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Again, I don't criticize her entrepreneurship, I'm just pointing out that being a Medium can be very lucrative.

By calling Suzanne an entrepreneur, you are implying that she is a clever fake, bilking people out of money.
She is the most honest and honorable person I know.
Enough said by me on this topic.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

By calling Suzanne an entrepreneur, you are implying that she is a clever fake, bilking people out of money.
She is the most honest and honorable person I know.
Enough said by me on this topic.

Barefoot. She sounds like the real deal. I will probably never have any desire to talk to a medium. Have not yet and probably never will. But this lady sounds sincere and not someone just out to make a buck.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Allegiance

It must be a great talent to tell the fraudulent mediums from the authentic ones. It is an even greater talent to choose the book that identifies the proper authorities than can do it.

The real fraudulent medium identifiers vs. The fake medium identifiers.

My first reaction is that it is extremely easy to tell the difference----there are no authentic mediums.

However, let me just throw a bizarre theory out here from left field. According to Stephen Hawking, "information" cannot be destroyed. Based on quantum mechanics, string theory and the mathematics of what happens at the event horizon of a singularity, he states that all information is recorded as a 2 dimensional "map" on the inside of a sphere that is the boundary of our universe. Every event, every person, every thought ever is recorded there. I have no idea how it is possible, but he has "proven" it mathematically, and his proof is accepted by other astrophysicists. Now, this "sphere" is located about 15-20 BILLION light years from the center of the universe, so you can't get there by golf cart. How it is recorded and how it can be read, I have no idea.

We just don't know much about how the universe works, but the nature of space-time suggests that even 20 billion light years can be just inches away. We also don't know much about how a human brain works. So.....what if there are some unique individuals who can somehow tap into that "encyclopedia" of knowledge? We might call them "psychics", "clairvoyants", or "mediums", but they just have a book that you don't. They could tell you things that they would have no way of knowing. Personally, I just want to know how the pyramids were built and who shot JFK.

Esoteric enough for everyone????

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

My first reaction is that it is extremely easy to tell the difference----there are no authentic mediums.

However, let me just throw a bizarre theory out here from left field. According to Stephen Hawking, "information" cannot be destroyed. Based on quantum mechanics, string theory and the mathematics of what happens at the event horizon of a singularity, he states that all information is recorded as a 2 dimensional "map" on the inside of a sphere that is the boundary of our universe. Every event, every person, every thought ever is recorded there. I have no idea how it is possible, but he has "proven" it mathematically, and his proof is accepted by other astrophysicists. Now, this "sphere" is located about 15-20 BILLION light years from the center of the universe, so you can't get there by golf cart. How it is recorded and how it can be read, I have no idea.

We just don't know much about how the universe works, but the nature of space-time suggests that even 20 billion light years can be just inches away. We also don't know much about how a human brain works. So.....what if there are some unique individuals who can somehow tap into that "encyclopedia" of knowledge? We might call them "psychics", "clairvoyants", or "mediums", but they just have a book that you don't. They could tell you things that they would have no way of knowing. Personally, I just want to know how the pyramids were built and who shot JFK.

Esoteric enough for everyone????

So if a butterfly farts in the Villages it is recorded 20 billion light years away on the inside of this expanding sphere?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

So if a butterfly farts in the Villages it is recorded 20 billion light years away on the inside of this expanding sphere?

According to Hawking, and the physicists who agree with his proof---YES.
But the bigger question: Do butterflies fart?????

Actually, your thoughts about a butterfly farting are recorded there as well

[John_W]

The easiest way to determine if the dead can see something has been studied numerous times. People dying on the operating room table and then being brought back to life. They often speak of seeing the light but real scientific studies have shown they haven't had that out-of-body experience they claim. Sometimes messages, words, playing cards have been put on the top of lockers, cabinets, etc and as far as I know, none of the dead out of body people have been able to say what was written or shown above. They say they can look down upon themselves as they lay dead on the table, but can't really prove it.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by John_W

The easiest way to determine if the dead can see something has been studied numerous times. People dying on the operating room table and then being brought back to life. They often speak of seeing the light but real scientific studies have shown they haven't had that out-of-body experience they claim. Sometimes messages, words, playing cards have been put on the top of lockers, cabinets, etc and as far as I know, none of the dead out of body people have been able to say what was written or shown above. They say they can look down upon themselves as they lay dead on the table, but can't really prove it.

Establishing death is another issue. Close to death, heart stoppage, loss of reactions, lack of brain activity...all things that are often said to be death, aren't.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Establishing death is another issue. Close to death, heart stoppage, loss of reactions, lack of brain activity...all things that are often said to be death, aren't.

Having brought back dozens, if not a hundred or so back to life, I'd say the only definitive definition of death is: You're dead and you stay dead.

BTW, most of those people told me they didn't remember anything, or they thought they just dozed off for a few minutes. But then again, they weren't really dead

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Having brought back dozens, if not a hundred or so back to life, I'd say the only definitive definition of death is: You're dead and you stay dead.

BTW, most of those people told me they didn't remember anything, or they thought they just dozed off for a few minutes. But then again, they weren't really dead

My friend Tom Snow was dead for a few minutes but he did not remember anything. Or was scared to say.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I want more than just a medium who can channel the deceased. I am a mess and need the whole package, aura cleansing, chakra balancing, a karma reset, and I would like a couple of hexes removed, especially the one that makes me think I can still hit an 8 iron 155 yards. My wife thinks I also need a filter tune up. She wishes we could make my inner child shut up. She is particularly frustrated that it renders me incapable of containing my amusement when I see a bad toupee and is worried that I might have PTSD, Progressive Tourette Syndrome Disorder, but I say **** that noise. My cousin keeps trying to convince me that veganism would solve all my problems and she may be right but we are on a fixed income and have you seen the price of air fresheners? My wife just peeked over my shoulder and asked me why I am letting my inner child post stuff on a public forum so I guess I better get to stepping and try to find my center with a some three count breathing, stop sign visualization, and a little mantra affirmation thrown in for good measure.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

I want more than just a medium who can channel the deceased. I am a mess and need the whole package, aura cleansing, chakra balancing, a karma reset, and I would like a couple of hexes removed, especially the one that makes me think I can still hit an 8 iron 155 yards. My wife thinks I also need a filter tune up. She wishes we could make my inner child shut up. She is particularly frustrated that it renders me incapable of containing my amusement when I see a bad toupee and is worried that I might have PTSD, Progressive Tourette Syndrome Disorder, but I say **** that noise. My cousin keeps trying to convince me that veganism would solve all my problems and she may be right but we are on a fixed income and have you seen the price of air fresheners? My wife just peeked over my shoulder and asked me why I am letting my inner child post stuff on a public forum so I guess I better get to stepping and try to find my center with a some three count breathing, stop sign visualization, and a little mantra affirmation thrown in for good measure.

If you can't even hit an 8 iron 155, you need a golf pro, not a medium

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

If you can't even hit an 8 iron 155, you need a golf pro, not a medium

If you can find a golf pro who can make me not be a 72 year old man with the knees of a 100 year old man, sign me up.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

If you can find a golf pro who can make me not be a 72 year old man with the knees of a 100 year old man, sign me up.

maybe a medium could find one........