Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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I think the most important aspect of this issue begs one question. Is this the kind of "sports hero " you want your kids to look up to?
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http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episo...problems/1281/ http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/pedigree-dogs-exposed/ Last edited by bkcunningham1; 10-04-2011 at 09:06 PM. |
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I remember a comment once made to me by a very bright and respected
person who spent their time as an inventor, etc. He was in my mind a great person with a terrific mind. His comment regarding killing of anything was "tell me where you stop? With what living thing?"Taking it a step further. If you would kill a fly, would you also kill a bird, would you then kill a cat, then a dog then horse,..etc.etc. At what point does your conscience or internal moral code kick in? What is the real difference if you kill any one of these? You have taken a life and have no idea why it was created for earth. Only a person with little or no conscience would assume the arrogrant role of the right to kill something. I know there will be a lot of, "flies should be killed, ants should be killed, they have no right to live...I don't propose to argue these points just raise this as something to think about. ![]() |
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That really is the crux of the matter.
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I am disappointed that some feel the need to try to be "cute" or demonstrate
they have some form of deep "philosophical" abilities when in reality they fall far short and actually embarass themselves. To clarify...There is a big difference in killing something that is apart of nature and someone who kills because they are a sociopath. I would hope the average person could separate one from the other. It is sad to even respond and further embarass the writer? ![]() |
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I think that when a person gets pleasure and entertainment out of torturing, maiming and killing an animal, it's deeply sick in the mind, and not just an isolated behavior "learned in the culture" that can be reversed by being jailed for a year or two.
I think this is why many here are disgusted with the "light" sentence Vick completed, and that he is allowed to continue as an entertainer making tens of millions of dollars from applauding, adoring fans who are teaching kids it's okay to overlook such heroes' behavior when not on stage. Last edited by ilovetv; 10-05-2011 at 12:00 PM. Reason: spelling |
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As a child The Baltimore Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church said that there were mortal and veniel sins.
I don't know if that is still taught that some bad things were far worse than other bad things. I do still think that there are some things more heinous than others. Killing a fly to me is not the same as killing an animal that is for many a family pet and for some. loved like a child. I think that torturing an animal for the sick sake of watching it hurt is very serious behavior and an indication of mental illness.
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I got curious so I looked up the sentencing guidelines for dog fighting. Fed and State. Most are in the 3-5 year range but that doesn't mean that judges have to sentence the max and most don't. At the time of Vick's arrest the max Fed sentence was 1 year which he received along with 11 months for a interstate commerce charge.
Like it or not he did his time. Do I condone his actions NO but there are a lot of actions I don't condone As far as hero figures Michael Irvin: caught with cocaine made the HOF and still working on TV Sammy Sosa: cheating and drug use Lance Armstrong: jury still out on him Tiger Woods: ![]() and many more. Why no mention of any of these fallen athletes? But many posts on Vick? |
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A basic debate or negiotation reqirement is if I convince you I am right you will change your mind, if you convince me you are right I will change my mind. Absent of these fundemental commitments it is not a debate or very valuable discussion since neither is agreeable to change. It would appear this is the condition in this thead and any further words are useless unless there is a need to just repeat oneself?
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