[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I think this thread became a problem because one poster did not look at the name of the person who was asking questions. Another interfered. Then one defended. Then one reminded. Then one deleted. Then another deleted. Then one acquiesced. And who knows what else! What a mess!

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I did not see that brought up. Saw quite a bit of chaos. So, maybe I missed it. But, I believe we are a democratic republic. At this point, who cares? The thread is a mess!

It's heartening to see someone sort out this entire thread, with a clear, simple and cogent analysis. I think the STR issue has been solved, once and for all.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I did not see that brought up. Saw quite a bit of chaos. So, maybe I missed it. But, I believe we are a democratic republic. At this point, who cares? The thread is a mess!

From the Google Machine: "While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic. What does this mean? “Constitutional” refers to the fact that government in the United States is based on a Constitution which is the supreme law of the United States."

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

From the Google Machine: "While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic. What does this mean? “Constitutional” refers to the fact that government in the United States is based on a Constitution which is the supreme law of the United States."

I believe you are now just picking and choosing "special wording.". A poster stated we live in a democracy with the constitution providing us with laws and rights each citizen lives by. The same as what you are saying. He then went on in detail to explain how it works. The poster then got backlashed. Maybe, they will believe it from you.

Who knows? Some people just like to argue instead of taking time to google it like you have done. Do yourself a favor. DONT RESPOND!!! Some will start asking you about things like mineral rights, slavery, college football players, and my personal favorite, The Emperor's New Clothes. I couldn't make this up if I tried! I think the poster who was attacked is never coming back to the forum. Lol. Gotta love this forum!

[Normal]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I believe you are now just picking and choosing "special wording.". A poster in the above stated we live in a democracy with the constitution providing us with laws and rights each citizen lives by. The same as what you are saying. He then went on in detail to explain how it works. The poster then got backlashed. Maybe, they will believe it from you.

Wow, this thread has gone on a tangent of its own. Meandering to parts of unexpected consequence…lol

Now we are debating the US Constitution often attenuated with the Bill of Rights? Why not the Articles of Confederation too. Or let’s go back to the English Bill of Rights. Heck why not the essays of the Magna Carta? My the slope is slippery in argument. I’m not sure the number of differing argument diagrams can be calculated in a philosophy class?

My interpretation:
It’s great to hear freedom of speech while not infringing on another’s point of view. To know so much something of law and ignore the 5th, places some in a group I prefer to never be a part of.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Normal

Wow, this thread has gone on a tangent of its own. Meandering to parts of unexpected consequence…lol

Now we are debating the US Constitution often attenuated with the Bill of Rights? Why not the Articles of Confederation too. Or let’s go back to the English Bill of Rights. Heck why not the essays of the Magna Carta? My the slope is slippery in argument. I’m not sure the number of differing argument diagrams can be calculated in a philosophy class?

My interpretation:
It’s great to hear freedom of speech while not infringing on another’s point of view. To know so much something of law and ignore the 5th, places some in a group I prefer to never be a part of.

Please don't encourage them. They will ask someone to explain nonsense like Pope Innocent III, Henry VIII, statues remaining that glorify the old south, Amendent 13, eminent domain, lawn ornaments in the Villages, Humpty Dumpty, or whatever else comes to their minds. #clickbait.

Silence is golden

[Velvet]

Hey, this thread is getting even more interesting… we can meander here and there but just wait till the horde of STR renters arrive!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

I believe you are now just picking and choosing "special wording.". A poster stated we live in a democracy with the constitution providing us with laws and rights each citizen lives by. The same as what you are saying. He then went on in detail to explain how it works. The poster then got backlashed. Maybe, they will believe it from you.

Who knows? Some people just like to argue instead of taking time to google it like you have done. Do yourself a favor. DONT RESPOND!!! Some will start asking you about things like mineral rights, slavery, college football players, and my personal favorite, The Emperor's New Clothes. I couldn't make this up if I tried! I think the poster who was attacked is never coming back to the forum. Lol. Gotta love this forum!

No "picking and choosing" involved. In a "democracy", Majority Rules. The Founders were quite specific that they did not want that to be the case...

The only "picking and choosing" I do is in regard to what posts I respond.

Sometimes. my choice is to ignore them...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Normal

Wow, this thread has gone on a tangent of its own. Meandering to parts of unexpected consequence…lol

Now we are debating the US Constitution often attenuated with the Bill of Rights? Why not the Articles of Confederation too. Or let’s go back to the English Bill of Rights. Heck why not the essays of the Magna Carta? My the slope is slippery in argument. I’m not sure the number of differing argument diagrams can be calculated in a philosophy class?

[Normal]

You know this morning’s news has a 20 year old Villages AirBnB renter getting away from the court system. They can come in, abuse (in this case), and leave town going back to their lives, while we have to endure their pleasures.

https://www.**************.com/2023/...-the-villages/

This shouldn’t be what buying in the Villages is all about.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Normal

You know this morning’s news has a 20 year old Villages AirBnB renter getting away from the court system. They can come in, abuse (in this case), and leave town going back to their lives, while we have to endure their pleasures.

https://www.**************.com/2023/...-the-villages/

This shouldn’t be what buying in the Villages is all about.

Nope! Taking yours and others' reminder. I hereby take the 5th! (but thanks for an interesting update)

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

You know this morning’s news has a 20 year old Villages AirBnB renter getting away from the court system. They can come in, abuse (in this case), and leave town going back to their lives, while we have to endure their pleasures.

https://www.**************.com/2023/...-the-villages/

This shouldn’t be what buying in the Villages is all about.

Which of his pleasures are we enduring?

Other than the word airbnb, how does this support your position? The article doesn't say how long he had been in the home, it doesn't even say that he was the one renting the home.

The article indicates that he gave the airbnb address as his mailing address back in June when he was arrested. Remembering the address of the home during a stressful situation such as an arrest could be an indication that he was in the home for a while. I'll bet most people in a short term rental don't remember the address.

The original article states that he was identified through his Michigan drivers license. Shame on the Sumter county system if they didn't write down his Michigan drivers license number or the address on it.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Normal

You know this morning’s news has a 20 year old Villages AirBnB renter getting away from the court system. They can come in, abuse (in this case), and leave town going back to their lives, while we have to endure their pleasures.

https://www.**************.com/2023/...-the-villages/

This shouldn’t be what buying in the Villages is all about.

Someone skipped bail? Excuse me while a compose myself from the shock...

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Which of his pleasures are we enduring?

Other than the word airbnb, how does this support your position? The article doesn't say how long he had been in the home, it doesn't even say that he was the one renting the home.

The article indicates that he gave the airbnb address as his mailing address back in June when he was arrested. Remembering the address of the home during a stressful situation such as an arrest could be an indication that he was in the home for a while. I'll bet most people in a short term rental don't remember the address.

The original article states that he was identified through his Michigan drivers license. Shame on the Sumter county system if they didn't write down his Michigan drivers license number or the address on it.

I just don't understand the defense of STRs in a community like TV

OK, bottom line, which neighborhood would you prefer to live in:

a) Stable, mostly year round retirees who have a sense of neighborhood and community and watch out for each other

b) An endless stream of revolving door motel occupants with no ties to the neighborhood who couldn't care less about their noise, litter, parking, kids, etc.?

And after answering that, why would anyone defend choice B?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Which of his pleasures are we enduring?

Other than the word airbnb, how does this support your position?

On TOTV, people don't need any "support" for their opinions, they just assume everyone wants to hear from them. How many times in life have we heard the words: "consider the source"?

I particular enjoy the "I'm not going to comment" or "I'm taking the 5th" type posts.

The most prolific poster in this thread, has been on TOTV for 20 days and according to his posts, "just bought a home here". With 160 posts in the 20 days he's been here, he hasn't had much time to find his way around TV, never mind have the time to experience the impact of STR's on the community.

Another prolific poster on the 2 recent threads on STR's has been on TOTV for barely 4 months and despite a "2 week vacation from TOTV", has found the time to make 400+ posts, on every subject under the sun ... 65 posts just on STR's!

Folks, if you haven't lived through a winter in TV, you don't have a clue about life in The Villages. If you spend most of your day at your computer keyboard, you need to get out and about.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I just don't understand the defense of STRs in a community like TV

OK, bottom line, which neighborhood would you prefer to live in:

a) Stable, mostly year round retirees who have a sense of neighborhood and community and watch out for each other

b) An endless stream of revolving door motel occupants with no ties to the neighborhood who couldn't care less about their noise, litter, parking, kids, etc.?

And after answering that, why would anyone defend choice B?

Most likely defending STR’s because is a STR slumlord trying to justify their neighborhood disrupting activities.