[Rags123]

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[Jimturner]

Originally Posted by rubicon

GG I agree with most of what you have said. I am tired of do gooders who foster keeping people on the dole. I am sick of environmentalist stupid arguments that cripples progress causes unemployment, and worse yet so called intellectuals that stifle free speech in the guise of ( "outsider juripurdence", "critical race theory", "critical feminist theory"' and "storytelling"theory to define some kinds of politically incorrect speech as not speech at all but mechanisms of subordination" Barr a Fisher, Fleishman & Fischer Law firm)

Well said, but I would suggest if anyone needs help, give it to them, but if they do not and take it anyway, consider execution!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Jimturner

Well said, but I would suggest if anyone needs help, give it to them, but if they do not and take it anyway, consider execution!

All of your recent responses seem extreme. You suggest using guns. Are you making a joke?

[Cisco Kid]

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[mickey100]

Originally Posted by blueash

GG, given your well developed ability to see through what people write and discern their real attitude, I wonder if you would be willing to assess your own biases? You have often posted that you are a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. A well established way to begin to evaluate a person's biases, which they may not even recognize in themselves is implicit association.

Test yourself here
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

Click on the GO box to the right of the US Flag, then click at the bottom of the warning page "I wish to proceed" I would suggest taking the race, religion and weapons tests. They ask for demographic but you can skip all of that and just click on the bottom of the pages where it says ok.

:clap2

I suspect the test results would be pretty revealing.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by blueash

GG, given your well developed ability to see through what people write and discern their real attitude, I wonder if you would be willing to assess your own biases? You have often posted that you are a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. A well established way to begin to evaluate a person's biases, which they may not even recognize in themselves is implicit association.

Test yourself here
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

Click on the GO box to the right of the US Flag, then click at the bottom of the warning page "I wish to proceed" I would suggest taking the race, religion and weapons tests. They ask for demographic but you can skip all of that and just click on the bottom of the pages where it says ok.

You go first Paul, and share the results with us. Then Mickey? You want to see how revealing your results are?

The truth is that we don't need Harvard to figure out where we stand. I know where you stand and you know where I stand, and we both think we see it clearly.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You go first Paul, and share the results with us. Then Mickey? You want to see how revealing your results are?

The truth is that we don't need Harvard to figure out where we stand. I know where you stand and you know where I stand, and we both think we see it clearly.

Quite honestly there's very little we need Harvard for in the first place, IMHO. And I grew up in Boston!

[Rags123]

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[dbussone]

Shocked! Just shocked! Another Harvard fail? I'm certain all those other sources and organizations must have a deeply ingrained bias against Harvard.

[Rags123]

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[Sandtrap328]

[QUOTE=Rags123;987811]Good post and allow me to add.....respect the LAW. As soon as we, as a country begin to lose that respect, our society is doomed.

[B]"
Martin Luther King, in his famous "Letter from the Birmingham Jail," called on all Americans to actively but peacefully oppose laws that were morally wrong.

This does include comparing the death of a policeman with a landscaper.

I am afraid that those of you who think you have all the answers, do not even know the questions !!!!!

I am not a smart man, but I have character and I totally respect the law.QUOTE]

Do you remember that the FBI (under the direction of J Edgar Hoover) investigated and accused MLK as being a (horrors!) Communist?

As for comparing the death of a policeman to the death of a landscaper - both equal human beings - one is not worth more than the other.

[Rags123]

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[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Jimturner

I am a simple man.
If the police stop protecting me and mine, I am prepared to take up the void.

I would like to say I agree with you but I'm pretty sure that 100% of you out there doesn't know what it's like to have to take the life of another person; I do, having had to do it twice in my career; it is something you never forget.

Unless you don't have a conscience, and I know all of you do unlike the thug punks in the cities killing each other every day, it's not as easy as it appears to be on television. Support the good Police Officers (the bad ones will weed themselves out or be weeded out by the good ones, yes, it does happen) and hopefully you'll never have to make that decision.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You go first Paul, and share the results with us. Then Mickey? You want to see how revealing your results are?

The truth is that we don't need Harvard to figure out where we stand. I know where you stand and you know where I stand, and we both think we see it clearly.

I think you misunderstand the information available by taking the tests. It will reveal to you subconscious automatic responses to visual and language stimuli. One of the tests showed I had a mild preference for white people, another a mild preference for Jews, the third showed no preference. I did the Obama test, no preference. The test is not to see where you stand, it is to see what pre-judging you do before you have any information. What unconscious beliefs to you have and how strong are they which might interfere with making a well reasoned decision.

The Science of Why Cops Shoot Young Black Men | Mother Jones

Interesting study, and one that directly relates to the issue of "I thought he was reaching for a gun so I shot him first" when there is no gun found...

Correll, J., Park, B., Judd, C.M., & Wittenbrink, B. (2002). The police officer’s dilemma: Using ethnicity to disambiguate potentially threatening individuals. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 83 (6), 1314-29 PMID: 12500813

[blueash]

Why has the word thug suddenly become so frequently used? And seemingly it only applies to black men? When white kids riot they are not called thugs. Check the news coverage of student riots after football games, or in the story this fall in New Hampshire where cars were overturned and fires set

Officials seek to make Pumpkin Festival safer after all-day riots - NY Daily News

NY Daily news, no mention of thugs.

To see how the media has conditioned us all to view the actions of white people doing exactly the same thing as black ones but with blacks being criminals and whites being not, see if you can spot the difference in these two photos of people carrying soda and groceries through the Katrina flood waters: