[chachacha]

Originally Posted by Radioman41

This is serving as a great diversion from other problems and scandals. The media has stopped talking about Obmacare, IRS scandal, Benghazi, NSA, sequester, quantitative easing, and the spending level.

i agree with this poster. when congress gets back all that will also be back on the fire... FYI The Pope has called for a day of fasting and prayer for peace this saturday. We need God's help, for sure!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Radioman41

This is serving as a great diversion from other problems and scandals. The media has stopped talking about Obmacare, IRS scandal, Benghazi, NSA, sequester, quantitative easing, and the spending level.

First, Benghazi came up at least twice today during the hearings, deflected by Kerry saying...it's not on the back burner;we will talk in the private session.

Second, the Affordable Care act is beginning to get more and more "press" and I have said for quite some times as it begins its financial web (recall congress asked quietly for an exemption and it was granted) it will very much bring us to our knees. Over stated ? I don't think so, but it is going to be noticed very soon.

As far as the rest of what you mentioned....the admin will use military in Syria, etc to fight sequester.

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[Monkei]

Since again it looks like we find the funds to fight wars but not feed hungry, fix bridges, etc, etc. Oil companies want their oil pipelines bult to Europe. I am so sick of all this continuing and ongoing crap of a once proud country being run by big corporations and what they want. The gassing just happens to come at a beneficial time for these no good greedy oil companies.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by Monkei

Since again it looks like we find the funds to fight wars but not feed hungry, fix bridges, etc, etc. Oil companies want their oil pipelines bult to Europe. I am so sick of all this continuing and ongoing crap of a once proud country being run by big corporations and what they want. The gassing just happens to come at a beneficial time for these no good greedy oil companies.

I don't think you are even close - we have more than enough oil in this country to be self sufficient if only we could access it - so that is a dead horse you are beating.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Monkei

Since again it looks like we find the funds to fight wars but not feed hungry, fix bridges, etc, etc. Oil companies want their oil pipelines bult to Europe. I am so sick of all this continuing and ongoing crap of a once proud country being run by big corporations and what they want. The gassing just happens to come at a beneficial time for these no good greedy oil companies.

I would like to hear what you might suggest this country might do relative to the Syrian situation, not just the chemical wars, but the ongoing cris there that has killed over 100,000 people and displaced about 2 million refugees. To that cause I believe the USA has given about 800 million dollars and any corporations also. UPS has a foundation that is patterning with UNICEF for money and goods to this specific cause.

[Bucco]

Finally maybe some good news..


"NOVO-OGARYOVO, RUSSIA President Vladimir Putin warned the West against taking one-sided action in Syria but also said Russia "doesn't exclude" supporting a U.N. resolution on punitive military strikes if it is proven that Damascus used poison gas on its own people."


Putin: Russia might let U.N. OK strike against Syria - CBS News

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Monkei

Since again it looks like we find the funds to fight wars but not feed hungry, fix bridges, etc, etc. Oil companies want their oil pipelines bult to Europe. I am so sick of all this continuing and ongoing crap of a once proud country being run by big corporations and what they want. The gassing just happens to come at a beneficial time for these no good greedy oil companies.

How noble would it be to "feed the hungry" and "fix bridges", but not defend thousands of innocent women, children and men being gassed to death?!?!?

And I always wonder how people think the quality of life would be without fuel to heat the homes in winter, and fuel for power plants that provide power to run factories where people have jobs, and diesel fuel for farmers'tractors and machinery raising and harvesting crops, and fuel for truckers who bring food to our packing plants, stores and tables.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

How noble would it be to "feed the hungry" and "fix bridges", but not defend thousands of innocent women, children and men being gassed to death?!?!?

And I always wonder how people think the quality of life would be without fuel to heat the homes in winter, and fuel for power plants that provide power to run factories where people have jobs, and diesel fuel for farmers'tractors and machinery raising and harvesting crops, and fuel for truckers who bring food to our packing plants, stores and tables.

There is a website that tracks giving by corporations and executives....

Home - The Chronicle of Philanthropy- Connecting the nonprofit world with news, jobs, and ideas

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I don't think you are even close - we have more than enough oil in this country to be self sufficient if only we could access it - so that is a dead horse you are beating.

It's not all about the oil, it's the entire defense apparatus which has to constantly feed itself. There is nothing better than a nice little war. All of a sudden we find the money ...

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I would like to hear what you might suggest this country might do relative to the Syrian situation, not just the chemical wars, but the ongoing cris there that has killed over 100,000 people and displaced about 2 million refugees. To that cause I believe the USA has given about 800 million dollars and any corporations also. UPS has a foundation that is patterning with UNICEF for money and goods to this specific cause.

Listen, I am one who sees very little difference in my family being gassed to death or being hacked to death by a machete. Yet we seem to find a difference when it comes to the Middle East. O.I.L.

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

How noble would it be to "feed the hungry" and "fix bridges", but not defend thousands of innocent women, children and men being gassed to death?!?!?

And I always wonder how people think the quality of life would be without fuel to heat the homes in winter, and fuel for power plants that provide power to run factories where people have jobs, and diesel fuel for farmers'tractors and machinery raising and harvesting crops, and fuel for truckers who bring food to our packing plants, stores and tables.

Your concerns over their plight in life is endearing. Was it there for all the other massacres that have come before it that we somehow found a way to sit on the sidelines for?

Oil is not the enemy but big oil business is. They make billions in profits, they pay nothing in taxes and even get money back from this country. We spill blood in foreign countries to ensure the safety of their employees and the protection of their equipment and property. Not to mention that the end of the day they are not even required to sell their gas to us. There is little if anything we can do now, that day has come and gone. We are left with nothing but to play along in their game. Drill baby drill.

[LndLocked]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I don't think you are even close - we have more than enough oil in this country to be self sufficient if only we could access it - so that is a dead horse you are beating.

This statement is not factual nor based in the reality of the amount of oil reserves that are within the boundaries of the USofA.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Monkei

Your concerns over their plight in life is endearing. Was it there for all the other massacres that have come before it that we somehow found a way to sit on the sidelines for?

Oil is not the enemy but big oil business is. They make billions in profits, they pay nothing in taxes and even get money back from this country. We spill blood in foreign countries to ensure the safety of their employees and the protection of their equipment and property. Not to mention that the end of the day they are not even required to sell their gas to us. There is little if anything we can do now, that day has come and gone. We are left with nothing but to play along in their game. Drill baby drill.

Now I get it. This is a good synopsis of how that works...

"Marc Rich, a shrewd, swashbuckling oil trader who fled to Switzerland after being indicted on charges of widespread tax evasion, illegal dealings with Iran and other crimes, and who was later pardoned.......died on Wednesday in Lucerne, Switzerland. He was 78.

The cause was a stroke, his spokesman said.

Mr. Rich escaped the Holocaust with his parents and became one of history’s most successful commodity traders, a billionaire who cornered the market for aluminum, silver and zinc and promoted a spot market for oil outside the control of the international petroleum giants.

Nicknamed El Matador for his steel nerves and razor-sharp acumen, Mr. Rich pushed the limits of legality and, the government said, broke them. In 1983 he was indicted on 65 criminal counts that included tax fraud and trading with Iran when it was holding American hostages......."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/27/bu...anted=all&_r=0

[donb9006]

It kills me how so many have such strong opinions about things they know nothing about...