[hampton]

Why are we getting involved in a civil war. There is no threat to the US. It is about bad guys killing bad guys. Maybe that is a win-win situation for US

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Golfingnut and Madelaine are correct even if we don't really care for how it was stated.

Silence is a very telling attribute of every Muslim I know. I also live in the DC area and I know many. A few I count as people I know well. Notice I did not say friends intentionally. I have even discussed the terrorists attacks and the radical jihads with several of them. These are good people. The live, work, raise children, shop, and socialize with others.

However not a single one of them will condemn the actions of the radical side of their religion. They don't openly support those actions, but they also do not condemn them. They remain silent. They are taught in their church that you and I are infidels. They are taught that we are not to be tolerated. They are taught that killing us is not a sin, but an entrance to paradise.

Until the leaders of the Muslim world come out and condemn the actions of those that want to kill us, until they stop teaching their children that destroying all infidels is the right thing to do, I will not condone the silence they support by inaction. So far not a single one has publicly stated their condemnation of the radical side of their religion or people. That position is not acceptable to me.

I understand what you are trying to say even though we don't really like the way it is stated. The leaders will never change like extremists from any religion will never change. The Muslim people must step up to the plate and condemn the leaders for not putting a halt to killing.

[billethkid]

Drudge report poll.
Question was should congress give Obama authorization to strike Syria?
Results:

((( DRUDGE POLL )))
9/2/13 19:30 PM ET

Thank you for voting!
YES 7.94% (28,394 votes)

NO 92.06% (329,188 votes)


Total Votes: 357,582
Return To Poll

If one assumes this would be a typical response plus or minus some amount, the will of the people is over whelmingly a big loud NO!

And we all know our representatives in Washington will represent the the will of the people.....right?

btk

[janmcn]

Just moments ago Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Cantor announced they would support the President's request for military force in Syria. Boehner had been adamant that the president request a vote by congress.

[PennBF]

Syria is a religious war within its society and we are being asked to be a sub set of the religious war. As the book titled "Year 2000" said the US will never fight Russia or China as they don't fight those wars but will fight over land if it is threatened. We historically fight in religious wars. Lets stay with the land as a basis as as long as so many believe fighting over religion is appropriate we will never get out of the cycle.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Just moments ago Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Cantor announced they would support the President's request for military force in Syria. Boehner had been adamant that the president request a vote by congress.

so what does that say about representing the will of the people?
Easy....as usual they will represent the party first, then their own preference second and then third and so on contributors, special interest groups, lobbyists......representing the will of the American people

btk

[billethkid]

and just a little bit ago the UN has said it illegal for the USA to go it alone.

They said unless the USA citizens or assets are under attack they do NOT SUPPORT an illegal action.

Your move Washington!!

I get the impression these politicians know how the differing cards will fall on significant events. This way now they can all say well we were ready to do the deed and support the president....but they won't let us do it.....from the president on down....all the representatives () in Washington have a cop out.



btk

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by billethkid

and just a little bit ago the UN has said it illegal for the USA to go it alone.

They said unless the USA citizens or assets are under attack they do NOT SUPPORT an illegal action.

Your move Washington!!

I get the impression these politicians know how the differing cards will fall on significant events. This way now they can all say well we were ready to do the deed and support the president....but they won't let us do it.....from the president on down....all the representatives () in Washington have a cop out.



btk

The UN has it right. If we attack without the support of the UN, we are no better than the Syrian government.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Just moments ago Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Cantor announced they would support the President's request for military force in Syria. Boehner had been adamant that the president request a vote by congress.

I can't imagine Boehner and Cantor being so in agreement with Obama on such an unpopular mission, so I'm thinking that as usual, "they know" a heck of a lot more intelligence info than the media can know, about the depth of evil and horror about to spread.

The media always portrays these scenarios as if they conclusively know everything that's top secret, but talking heads on CNN, MSNBC, FNC etc. do not know what presidents know. I always wonder what the conversation goes like when the incoming and outgoing presidents meet in private, and ride in the limo to the inauguration. It was telling that Obama, within weeks, took the same position as Bush on some of the critical terrorism matters like Afghanistan, Gitmo, etc. They know a lot more than we or the media ever could.

I liked it when, at GWB's presidential library dedication this year, Clinton told how often he and GWB would talk and debate like crazy by phone regularly, and there was obvious respect for each other. I hope they're all consulting with Obama on this terrible mess.

[Golfingnut]

Boehner and Cantor are always ready for a good war.

[donb9006]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I can't imagine Boehner and Cantor being so in agreement with Obama on such an unpopular mission, so I'm thinking that as usual, "they know" a heck of a lot more intelligence info than the media can know, about the depth of evil and horror about to spread.

The media always portrays these scenarios as if they conclusively know everything that's top secret, but talking heads on CNN, MSNBC, FNC etc. do not know what presidents know. I always wonder what the conversation goes like when the incoming and outgoing presidents meet in private, and ride in the limo to the inauguration. It was telling that Obama, within weeks, took the same position as Bush on some of the critical terrorism matters like Afghanistan, Gitmo, etc. They know a lot more than we or the media ever could.

I liked it when, at GWB's presidential library dedication this year, Clinton told how often he and GWB would talk and debate like crazy by phone regularly, and there was obvious respect for each other. I hope they're all consulting with Obama on this terrible mess.

The horror and evil will come from us.

Because all presidents work for the same people, take the same orders.

"Meet the new boss...same as the old boss".

[Shimpy]

The biggest element of an attack is the element of surprise. I guess we can forget about that.

[wendyquat]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Hi Diane, the point is not for the Saudis to militarily come in...I think they have no interest in destabilizing relations further between Arab nations.
The point was to say that the Arab League opposes chemical warfare to counter black and white thinking about Muslims.
Some folks are saying things like:
Muslims/Arabs just want to kill each other and...
Obama is a Muslim so he wouldn't kill a Muslim (except Bin Laden?)--

Not all Muslims/Arabs are terrorists. Our blindly thinking of them all as enemies just wears me out.

It might wear you out but what is one to think when the so-called peaceful Muslims never step forward and condemn the acts of the radicals?

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by wendyquat

It might wear you out but what is one to think when the so-called peaceful Muslims never step forward and condemn the acts of the radicals?

They don't condemn them because they don't condemn them.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

The biggest element of an attack is the element of surprise. I guess we can forget about that.

The surprise will be what Asaad and the Iranians do when we launch our controlled, measured, limited, hurt no one attack.

We are not only pre-announcing such an action, we are allowing all the time in the world for them to prepare just exactly what and how they will counter attack.

Then the only surprised people will be the pupetered mateurs in Washington.

Watching the hearings today should be an embarassment for any thinking American.

If there are 70-90% of Americans against doing anything then why do the so called representatives need to continue the debate.
Ooops I forgot they did the same thing with Obamascare when 60% of Americans were against it.

If you have strong feelings one way or the other then you are not helping the American system work if you have not contacted your representatives in Wahington........we can at least try to get them to represent us.

btk