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Old 09-26-2014, 07:07 PM
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I am afraid they are all over this country now. They have infiltrated. In my mind it's like they are just coming in over the walls like insects and no way to stop them. They are mixing in with our people. We have been so lax about who comes in and out of this country. We could really learn from the baby nation Israel right now. I went over there two years ago and it was unreal how hard it was for us to just visit from one end of Israel to another. They interrogated our whole group one by one by trained personnel asking personal questions and looking directly into our eyes to see if we were lying. It's like they were human lie detectors.
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Sure to be tonights headline news.
I do not know what to say.

FBI to investigate Oklahoma beheading; armed man stopped attacker - Washington Times
Nut with a machete, sword or whatever he used to behead his victim. There are going to be people influenced sickly by what they see in the news, in books, and in movies. This has happened throughout US history.

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How the Muslim Brotherhood Is Winning in America | Clarion Project
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It will be more than interesting to see how the various Media Outlets " position " this heinous act . I note that the FBI has already labeled it as " Workplace Violence ".
I believe this was the same label which they ascribed to the Islamist who committed the shootings at as I recall Ft. Hood while he was a member of our Military .
In my book it is another act of Islamist Terrorism and nothing less .
This is exactly what ISIL has asked individual Muslims in the US to do. "Workplace violence" is bologna.
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This is exactly what ISIL has asked individual Muslims in the US to do. "Workplace violence" is bologna.
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His facebook page tells the tale! I read an article this weekend that some imams are telling Muslim doctors in America it is their duty to perform "medical jihad"! Very chilling as I personally have two Muslim doctors!
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His facebook page tells the tale! I read an article this weekend that some imams are telling Muslim doctors in America it is their duty to perform "medical jihad"! Very chilling as I personally have two Muslim doctors!
The responses on here are the scary part. More common sense and logic. Criminals often put their plans on Facebook. What is more logical that some man upset about something at his job filled with rage for some reason became violent or some vast conspiracy involving Imans?

Conspiracies do happen but they usually involve very small groups of people who trade benefits for one another. Why would someone who can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars over their medical career start following some kind of "medical jihad?"
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Well, his Facebook page shows quite clearly an interest in beheadings by terrorists, in this picture containing this text:

"Thus do we find the clear precedent that explains the peculiar penchant of Islamic terrorists to behead their victims: it is merely another precedent bestowed by their <<Prophet>>:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

In the pictures there also two of Bin Laden, and his "Muslim sisters" dressed and armed like ISIS fighters, and many more to page thru with left and right arrows.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

I wonder why the connection wasn't mentioned and who directs what IS mentioned on National news???
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The responses on here are the scary part. More common sense and logic. Criminals often put their plans on Facebook. What is more logical that some man upset about something at his job filled with rage for some reason became violent or some vast conspiracy involving Imans?

Conspiracies do happen but they usually involve very small groups of people who trade benefits for one another. Why would someone who can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars over their medical career start following some kind of "medical jihad?"
Yes, I don't really see it happening that way. This OK man, not the best of character to begin with, was fired and lost it. His facebook tells the story of someone attracted to the violence of terrorism. But I don't think he was a terrorist. Perhaps, though, disenfranchised and rogue individuals make for plum recruits.
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His facebook page tells the tale! I read an article this weekend that some imams are telling Muslim doctors in America it is their duty to perform "medical jihad"! Very chilling as I personally have two Muslim doctors!
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The responses on here are the scary part. More common sense and logic. Criminals often put their plans on Facebook. What is more logical that some man upset about something at his job filled with rage for some reason became violent or some vast conspiracy involving Imans?

Conspiracies do happen but they usually involve very small groups of people who trade benefits for one another. Why would someone who can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars over their medical career start following some kind of "medical jihad?"
That's a good question:

Q: Why WOULD Nadal Hasan, M.D. and psychiatrist at Walter Reed--where presidents get their healthcare--"who can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars over his medical career, start following some kind of 'medical jihad'?"

A: Because he's a jihadi terrorist!

And "The responses here are the scary part." Oh really?? So now posters on here are being judged as equally dangerous as a jihadist beheader??

We're in more trouble than we thought.
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NPR:
"When a group of key officials gathered in the spring of 2008 for their monthly meeting in a Bethesda, Md., office, one of the leading — and most perplexing — items on their agenda was: What should we do about Hasan?

Hasan had been a trouble spot on officials' radar since he started training at Walter Reed, six years earlier. Several officials confirm that supervisors had repeatedly given him poor evaluations and warned him that he was doing substandard work.

Both fellow students and faculty were deeply troubled by Hasan's behavior — which they variously called disconnected, aloof, paranoid, belligerent, and schizoid. The officials say he antagonized some students and faculty by espousing what they perceived to be extremist Islamic views. His supervisors at Walter Reed had even reprimanded him for telling at least one patient that "Islam can save your soul."…..

….One official involved in the conversations had reportedly told colleagues that he worried that if Hasan deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, he might leak secret military information to Islamic extremists. Another official reportedly wondered aloud to colleagues whether Hasan might be capable of committing fratricide, like the Muslim U.S. Army sergeant who, in 2003, killed two fellow soldiers and injured 14 others by setting off grenades at a base in Kuwait…..

…..Second, some of Hasan's supervisors and instructors had told colleagues that they repeatedly bent over backward to support and encourage him, because they didn't have clear evidence that he was unstable, and they worried they might be "discriminating" against Hasan because of his seemingly extremist Islamic beliefs..."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=120313570
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Whoa, I hope someone is keeping an eye on Dr. Oz.
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Whoa, I hope someone is keeping an eye on Dr. Oz.
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Have they determined yet if he is part of a group?

How about the Chicago airport thing? Anyone (other than me)think there might be more to that story?
The contract employee who started a fire in the basement of the FAA facility in Aurora, IL (suburb of Chicago) left a note for his family. Apparently he was attempting to commit suicide according to the contents of the note. He was supposedly upset because he was going to be transferred to Hawaii. According to one of his Naperville, IL neighbors interviewed on a Chicago TV station Friday night, he seemed totally normal.

According to a Chicago TV station I watched last night, he faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted.
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Whoa, I hope someone is keeping an eye on Dr. Oz.
Good post. I wish I had tried a funny approach.
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The contract employee who started a fire in the basement of the FAA facility in Aurora, IL (suburb of Chicago) left a note for his family. Apparently he was attempting to commit suicide according to the contents of the note. He was supposedly upset because he was going to be transferred to Hawaii. According to one of his Naperville, IL neighbors interviewed on a Chicago TV station Friday night, he seemed totally normal.

According to a Chicago TV station I watched last night, he faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted.
Good. A common sense and logical post.

One person is also putting words into my posts I never said about these posters as being as dangerous as the news covered criminals. I never said anything remotely like that.

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That's a good question:

Q: Why WOULD Nadal Hasan, M.D. and psychiatrist at Walter Reed--where presidents get their healthcare--"who can earn hundreds of thousands of dollars over his medical career, start following some kind of 'medical jihad'?"

A: Because he's a jihadi terrorist!

And "The responses here are the scary part." Oh really?? So now posters on here are being judged as equally dangerous as a jihadist beheader??

We're in more trouble than we thought.
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NPR:
"When a group of key officials gathered in the spring of 2008 for their monthly meeting in a Bethesda, Md., office, one of the leading — and most perplexing — items on their agenda was: What should we do about Hasan?

Hasan had been a trouble spot on officials' radar since he started training at Walter Reed, six years earlier. Several officials confirm that supervisors had repeatedly given him poor evaluations and warned him that he was doing substandard work.

Both fellow students and faculty were deeply troubled by Hasan's behavior — which they variously called disconnected, aloof, paranoid, belligerent, and schizoid. The officials say he antagonized some students and faculty by espousing what they perceived to be extremist Islamic views. His supervisors at Walter Reed had even reprimanded him for telling at least one patient that "Islam can save your soul."…..

….One official involved in the conversations had reportedly told colleagues that he worried that if Hasan deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, he might leak secret military information to Islamic extremists. Another official reportedly wondered aloud to colleagues whether Hasan might be capable of committing fratricide, like the Muslim U.S. Army sergeant who, in 2003, killed two fellow soldiers and injured 14 others by setting off grenades at a base in Kuwait…..

…..Second, some of Hasan's supervisors and instructors had told colleagues that they repeatedly bent over backward to support and encourage him, because they didn't have clear evidence that he was unstable, and they worried they might be "discriminating" against Hasan because of his seemingly extremist Islamic beliefs..."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=120313570
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Yes, I don't really see it happening that way. This OK man, not the best of character to begin with, was fired and lost it. His facebook tells the story of someone attracted to the violence of terrorism. But I don't think he was a terrorist. Perhaps, though, disenfranchised and rogue individuals make for plum recruits.
They probably do. But, this man just looks like someone who went off on fellow employees and was using the excuse of the season to do so. If free Cuba had been in season, he would have used that.
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