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Did you intentionally leave out the biggest story of the day? Hint; it involves 20 guilty verdicts, and it is in big headlines at NBC News.
It wasn't there when I copied/posted the headlines above. If you mean the R (drool much?) governor and wife, they got what they ordered.
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A LOT of people are quietly so upset right now with good cause.

And nine eleven is coming again.

And what I heard this evening on CNN from the director of Homeland Security was side stepping and excuses and doubletalk. This is not the time for that. This is the time for straight answers.

They think that a man from Boston is the recruiter on social media for the men who have left this country to join ISIS. I hope they find him. I hope they find all of them who are trying to hurt this country.

I feel very upset when people cannot see that there is real danger to all of us and introduce new topics and inane remarks.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:12 AM
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I think that you'll find that outside of a small area of Ferguson, MO most U.S. citizens are far more outraged over what's going on in Syria and Iraq.

The news media covers what they think will get the the most viewers. Often they are wrong, but I don't think that the coverages equates to the outrage of most Americans.
I hope you are correct Dr. Boogie, and that people really are outraged over what is happening in this world, unfortunately I just don't think so. But, I also wonder if people like me are to blame - I switched on the evening before last and there was a piece on someone being flogged in the desert by ISIS and it sickened me to the point where I just could not watch, so I am definitely part of the problem. I cannot watch people being abused and mistreated so I push it to the back of my mind and turn to something easier to watch. So for all my big talk I am just as much part of the problem as most of this world.

What really surprises me is the international inability to do something. Take Putin invading the Ukraine and then threatening the rest of the world with his nuclear power ........... isn't this how WW11 started with Hitler invading Poland (am I right on it being Poland), and then continuing his march on Europe?

I for one will admit I just don't know - I guess I'm like almost everyone else, I want someone else to come along and clean it up because I don't know how!

So I think I am going to go back to burying my head in the sand and try to forget about it - after all if it's not yet at my door ..................
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I think that although a lot of people would like to see some kind of action being taken, many are tired of war and are afraid of seeing "boots on the ground" again.

The president has said that the boots on the ground option is off the table. I don't know that he'll be able to keep that promise. But, like his predecessor said, this is a different kind of war. Things will go on every day that the American public will not know about. It will be a war of covert operations and intelligence, more so than any war in the past.

We have a bit of a dichotomy here in that much of the American public doesn't want to see us in another Iraq situation, but they would also feel better if they could see something happening. That "something happening" however, would include video of body bags of American soldiers on the news every night. (We know how much the news media loves to show that.)

The way this war is being waged, (I hope) will not be visible to us. So we will be left with this uncomfortable feeling that nothing is being done.

Neither one of these options makes the American public comfortable.
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I think that although a lot of people would like to see some kind of action being taken, many are tired of war and are afraid of seeing "boots on the ground" again.

The president has said that the boots on the ground option is off the table. I don't know that he'll be able to keep that promise. But, like his predecessor said, this is a different kind of war. Things will go on every day that the American public will not know about. It will be a war of covert operations and intelligence, more so than any war in the past.

We have a bit of a dichotomy here in that much of the American public doesn't want to see us in another Iraq situation, but they would also feel better if they could see something happening. That "something happening" however, would include video of body bags of American soldiers on the news every night. (We know how much the news media loves to show that.)

The way this war is being waged, (I hope) will not be visible to us. So we will be left with this uncomfortable feeling that nothing is being done.

Neither one of these options makes the American public comfortable.
Good post Mr. Boogie ................. for what my opinion is worth, I agree.
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I had business acquaintance's and friends who were very famaliar with the middleeastern, etc. It was their opinion that the people who are fighting the US think of us as just talkers/no action. We continue to talk when we should put boots on the ground and go after them as they are going after us. They count on the 'talking" response by the US and act accordingly. I am not sure they think of us as "cowards" as much as they think of us as weak talkers and no spirit. Current responses by the US only go to support their position. We will see them in the US as most of them are psycopaths with no fear of death. It is time for us to "man up".
Easy to say when your feet are not in the boots….

This current world conflict is far different from what most of our generation lived through. The good old war days (and our easily identified enemies) are long gone. Today's threats require a very different approach, the past 10 years should be proof of that. The last thing we need to do is "man up" with another futile attempt to beat the enemy into submission. Surely we have learned at least that much during the past decade.

We (the western world) are most likely in the early stages of fighting what may be known in history as "The 100 Years War".

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The president is on his way home from Europe at this hour after announcing his plan for taking down ISIL. Ten countries have joined in the coalition so far, and Secretary Kerry will stay and try to get some of the Arab countries to join in; such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and others. People have been clamoring to hear the president's plan. Well today he announced it.
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The president is on his way home from Europe at this hour after announcing his plan for taking down ISIL. Ten countries have joined in the coalition so far, and Secretary Kerry will stay and try to get some of the Arab countries to join in; such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and others. People have been clamoring to hear the president's plan. Well today he announced it.
His pan so far is to form a coalition of ten nations and degrade and destroy ISIS.

Pretty short on details except for this.

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The coalition consists of the U.S., U.K., France, Australia, Germany, Canada, Turkey, Italy, Poland and Denmark.

Kerry acknowledged that not all countries in the coalition would be comfortable directly supporting military actions. "Everybody can do something," he said. "People can contribute either ammunition or weapons or technical know-how or intel capacity."
Sounds an awful lot like what we did in Iraq eleven years ago except that that was the largest coalition ever assembled. Around thirty countries if I'm not mistaken.
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I think while he was in the company of world LEADERS, who readily admit and believe in the reality of the Terrorist threat, they pushed or embarrassed him into a position of having to participate.

Of course to destroy the enemy is the plan........it always has been!
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