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Old 08-01-2013, 03:51 AM
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I respectfully disagree with a couple of your conclusions. A gay priest is not a pedophile until he ACTS on his tendencies. These actions are subject to judgement, but the person should not be discriminated against or condemned until he acts in an inappropriate way. Having spent years in Catholic seminary training, I know hundreds of priests. At least two of them are gay, but I don't think very many people know it. They are both held in the highest esteem by their congregations. To my knowledge, their careers are filled with many years of nothing but good works. If the Pope knew these men, they would be the kind of gay priests he referred to in his remarks.

We all have our 'tendencies'. To say that someone whose tendencies are not entirely directed toward a single sexual orientation has a mental illness is an unsupportable stretch. Again, if someone acts inappropriately, their conduct should be judged. It may also be later determined that some of those people are mentally ill. Most, I believe, are entirely free of mental illness and therefore subject to standard prosecution and sentencing penalties
Hi ijusluvit: First I agree with those who believe we should not bring religion in on this issue. Religion is based on blind faith and you either have it or are unsure or you don't have it.

The subject of homosexuality is difficult because it is explosive and very personal. I strongly agree with the philosophy of love the person ,hate the sin. The hedonistic behavior portrayed by some gays to me clearly demonstrates mental issues. However, I do not desire to paint all gays with a broad brush which is the reason I said keep it private. Indeed my nature is to support the underdog and in the past I have come to the defense of women, blacks and the disabled...and yes people who made fun of gays as it is all unproductive behavior.

A gay priest married my daughter and his comments made me very uncomfortable especially when at the dress rehearsal dinner he state that his superiors forbid him from being around little boys.

In my mind my daughter was not actually married nor would I confess my sins to him. In fairness I also avoided priests I knew were sleeping around with woman.

Unfortunately homosexuality abortion and race because of the extreme views by some people this nation can never have an honest dialogue and I find that particularly distressing.

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Old 08-01-2013, 09:37 AM
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Hi ijusluvit: First I agree with those who believe we should not bring religion in on this issue. Religion is based on blind faith and you either have it or are unsure or you don't have it.

The subject of homosexuality is difficult because it is explosive and very personal. I strongly agree with the philosophy of love the person ,hate the sin. The hedonistic behavior portrayed by some gays to me clearly demonstrates mental issues. However, I do not desire to paint all gays with a broad brush which is the reason I said keep it private. Indeed my nature is to support the underdog and in the past I have come to the defense of women, blacks and the disabled...and yes people who made fun of gays as it is all unproductive behavior.

A gay priest married my daughter and his comments made me very uncomfortable especially when at the dress rehearsal dinner he state that his superiors forbid him from being around little boys.

In my mind my daughter was not actually married nor would I confess my sins to him. In fairness I also avoided priests I knew were sleeping around with woman.

Unfortunately homosexuality abortion and race because of the extreme views by some people this nation can never have an honest dialogue and I find that particularly distressing.

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Your daughter and her husband married each other, the Priest was the witness. Now, I would have some worries about receiving any Sacraments from him, just as I do from Priests who do not celebrate Mass as written, say Mass in clown costumes, etc. But I think your daughter was legally married in The Church.

Pope John XXIII said no one with homosexual tendencies can be ordained. These problems have made it bad for everyone. Our K of C Council wanted to get the teenagers to help the less young parisonners with raking leaves in the Fall, but couldn't since Adults can not work with younger people, per Archdiocese. So the kids don't learn to help others and the less young can't get their leaves raked.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:11 PM
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Excuse me but being gay has nothing to do with pedophilia. The sexual abuse of children by Priests has nothing to do with sexuality, it has to do with opportunity, power, control, and abuse. Being gay is no different than being straight, except in who you choose for your partner. Life is the same and your assumption to me in mortifying.
According to my dictionary and according to internet definitions of pedophilia, it has everything to do with sexuality. Webster's definition: Pedophilia, n. sexual desire in an adult for a child. Online: Sex or sexual activity with children who have not reached puberty.
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