[Mardarlowe]

This post makes a good bit of sense. I'm against the political mask thing but 4 to 6 months of wearing one might make everyone happy. What the heck. I will do it 4 months.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The original post by Taz was excellent. The response by Ajar was clueless, shaming Taz



DO you understand now??

Sorry I don’t agree. There is a much much much higher rate that this scenario will not play out this way. In fact it gets less and less everyday. So trying to put the fear into people help nothing. Better would be posting here’s what you really need to know......things like “when do you need to go to the hospital vs staying home” that was big for my family. The other would be “how are the treating the virus today not April but today” maybe even do “what are you doing to boost your immune system”. Answering this questions will help all of us without trying to scare you into a lock down

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

This is off of Facebook--

Perspective.

Here is the story: You get a fever, and it's a little hard to breathe, but not that bad. Take some tylenol and go to bed. You wake up in the middle of the night to find yourself gasping for air. You reach over to your wife and get her attention. She rolls over, “What's wrong honey? It's the middle of the night.” It's then she can hear you breathing, or trying to. She turns on the light and sees the panic in your eyes... No matter how much you inhale, it's not enough, it's never enough. That would be bad enough but the fever is spiking, it's hard to focus. Your three kids come into the room, they heard Mom talking loud, trying to get your attention. The little girl, 6 years old, you're the center of her universe. She's a daddy's girl and loves it when you take her places with you. "Is Daddy Okay?" Mom tries to hide her panic "He's fine honey, he'll be okay..." She struggles trying to decide if she should drive you to the emergency room or get an ambulance. She decides to drive. You're too out of it to get dressed so she takes you in your pajamas. Once there, they admit you. Your wife cannot go in. You're alone. She is sent to the house to quarantine with the rest of your kids. They start to work on you. You're getting tired, your chest hurts from trying to breathe for so long. Your blood pressure is up. They lower your fever a little and put on an oxygen mask. It seems to help a little, but only for an hour or so. Then your lungs begin to fight for air again. They offer to turn you over on your stomach, "sometimes it helps" they say. They roll you over... It does. You look out the door, Doctors are running everywhere. There are patients in the hallways. The ward is full, and everyone is trying to keep up. You hear Code calls, and ventilator machines being rolled up and down the hallway. You notice you cannot smell anything, and you have pain all over. You wonder about your family. Your daughter, the fear in her eyes as her daddy was put into the car. "Why are you leaving Daddy? I'll take care of you..."
Pain.. the fight for air. It's back. You press the button. They roll you back over and check you out. The doctor comes up to your bed. Completely covered, face mask, hood, looks a little like an astronaut. "Sir, you're not getting enough oxygen in your blood. We need to put you on a ventilator." You nod in agreement, gasping. "Sir... You won't be able to talk once we do this. Would you like to say anything to your family? We can arrange a facetime with them if you like.” As your head tries to wrap itself around this offer, one question comes to mind: "How serious is this?" It takes the doc a while to respond, he's done this hundreds of times, but it never gets easy. "Patients that go on a ventilator have a 4 in 10 chance of not recovering. Should we try to reach your family?" You nod... Numb. Your brain can't handle all the info it's getting. The fever, the pain in your chest the struggle for air, it's too much. A nurse comes back in with an iPad. "I have your family online" she tries to say with a smile. You take the Ipad. There they are, all three kids and your wife. Your everything. The look on their faces is a look you've seen before. The brave smiles. The look you give when you feel sorrow and pain, but need to cheer up the person you’re talking too. They are not at home.. It looks like they are outside. You pull in as much air as you can so you can sound somewhat normal. It does not work. "Hey guys, where are you?" Your wife forces another smile. “We're outside your window honey. They put signs out so we know where you are. They can't let us in. We're not supposed to leave the house but we needed to be close to you.” She starts to cry, it's too much for her. That's when it hits you. Clarity, all at once.. You're saying "goodbye.” The next time you hug your family will either be a few weeks from now, or in the hereafter. So this is your last chance to say something. The six year old is shaking, pale with fear. "Hey there nugget.. How you doing?" "Daddy... Please come home... Who will read to me? I miss you so much, please get out of bed.. I'll do anything you want!" You never realized you could cry as hard as you are right now, and it's making the breathing even harder. You know you're scaring her. You cannot stay on much longer. "I'm sorry nugget... I can't get out of bed right now. You take care of your Mama for me okay? I love your everything.” She looks at you through tear soaked eyes.. "I love your everything too.” You can't do it... You can't say goodbye, it's all just too much. The iPad falls in your lap as you struggle to both breathe and cry all at once. An alarm goes off, the Docs surround you and begin to put in the ventilator. Your eyes close for the last time. It's over. It takes years for your family to recover. They lost their rock, and nothing will be the same, ever again... End
I felt compelled to write this to give a perspective to those of us who are more focused on comfort and "getting back to normal.” The above story has played out thousands of times with Mothers, Fathers, Grandparents, and children. Families that will grieve for years to come.
it's not about how high the numbers go. It's about that one person.. Your "everything.”
Please... show compassion. Odds are you know somebody that endured something like this. We're in a war right now, and we're losing. It's time to step up and make sure these kids keep their parents.
Thank you... Jay A Kelley 11/16/2020
*copied & pasted

Sorry but this really does help. What were you hoping for from this post. Maybe I miss3d the message other then “fear”.

[eweissenbach]

Tal’s original post was not about fear or politics, it was about empathy, something that should not be political, but apparently is with many of you.

[allenpegg1@gmail.com]

We're more SCARED than brave simply because that's what has been shoved down our throats. BTW - why is it that no one has seen ANY FLU numbers since the WuhanChineseCoronaVirus began. How many COVID deaths were actually death from something else??? WHERE ARE THE REAL TRUTH IN COVID NUMBERS?

[paulajr]

Originally Posted by Skunky1

Well “paulajr” If you get it you’ll know what to expect now!

Wow...just wow. Lots of keyboard warriors sitting alone in their houses judging others during this time. You don’t know me...or what I do to protect myself. Wow...

[Tblue]

Go back and read post #18 by jacksonbrown.

[kappy]

I agree that wearing a mask for a few more months is not that difficult. Do masks really help? The “Ask Marilyn” column in the Parade magazine today makes a lot of sense. She says, “Say we have 100 people, one of whom is sick, and one mask is available. Who should wear the mask? Obviously, the sick person. In short, a mask worn by a sick person benefits many, but a mask worn by a healthy person benefits only one. It’s also obvious that the more people wear masks, the better for all. Again, why? We don’t know who may be sick.”

There are many people who do not show any symptoms of COVID but actually have it. These are the people that can give it to the rest of us if they do not mask. During the period that they have the virus prior to any symptoms showing, which could be from 5-14 days, think of all the people they could transmit the virus to. Wearing a mask is not that difficult and it could save the lives of your relatives and friends.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by Andyb

Be careful with Facebook, they spread fear. I quit Facebook.

And lies. People can make up anything they want and even make it look like it came from a legitimate source.

[asianthree]

It’s a story, but since it’s not something you personally had first hand knowledge, so it’s just a story.

Worked 5 months with coworkers who were positive, who continued to work, no time for a lengthy conversation. If someone was on a vent, no conversations happened.

Being there, and reading about it online if a little different

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by paulajr

While I feel horrible that this scenario is possible for some...I know MANY people who have had, and recovered from Coronavirus, and all were able to stay in their houses, and have fully recovered. To put out this horrifying post does nothing but continue to terrify those who are already terrified. Stop. Shame on you...

This was completely necessary, timely, and appropriate. There are still far too many people who think that COVID-19 is a hoax and that their distorted view of personal freedom should take precedence over essential public health measures.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by sail33or

WW2 men charged Normandy "knowing" 90% would DIE. We live in FEAR of a 99% survivable flu. Shameful. Where the heck is THE GREATEST GENERATION when you need them.

America used to be "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"
Now it is "Land of the Mask and Home of the Scared".

Scared of a 99% survivable flu.

Oh, one more thing. Early Christians knew if they met, they would be fed to LIONS. Now all churches are afraid of a 99% survivable flu. They close, they issue tickets, FREAKING TICKETS to go to Church.

My mother (who is late 90's) will NOT go see her lifelong friend who has 2 days to live (per Hospice not of Covid) because of the stories you just posted. Late 90's and afraid to Die. Probably because she can't get into church.

This is truly the clueless reply - your distorted view of personal freedom doesn't take precedence over essential public health requirements.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Tblue

Go back and read post #18 by jacksonbrown.

Also read post #27 by me.

The numbers in the jhunewsletter article don't match the numbers from the CDC MMWR report. Someone is using the wrong numbers.

[ChickenDinner]

I talked to my brother from Australia yesterday. Want to know many new cases Australia had last week? 4! Hmmmm, do they know something we don’t? I don’t know, but they didn’t hesitate to make masks mandatory early on. Can’t ignore the facts, as much as we try.

[newgirl]

And you must be one of those that feel that your face is so amazing others are willing to get sick or die for. You are wrong, in fact, anyone that refuses to wear masks and take this seriously is the ugliest person in the room.
What she /he wrote is true, ask any nurse or doctor on the front line.