[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

If that is what eliminated the Flu, why didn't it eliminate Covid?

Duh, could it be that CV is MORE transmissible and MORE deadly than the flu? Also, since flu shots have been available for years and are NOT new tech like CV shots - maybe people are very comfortable getting flu shots.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by donassaid

It's not a vaccine. It's "experimental " gene therapy that has killed hundreds and sickened thousands. All for what? A virus that 99% of people survive. Now who's crazy?

Who's crazy? Those who don't take the CV vaccine. This can be proven by the fact that the whole world is BEGGING for more US vaccinations. Who would I trust for my health advice? Most medical scientists and the whole world or you? It is not EVEN close!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Um... Because I ask them why they refused the vaccine...

Then, I gently try to inform them, that especially for them, it could save their life...

That IS good that you recommend the vaccines.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

Daughter-in-law works as a registered nurse in a large hospital in Ohio. Works in a hospice area. Said almost every cause of death was listed as Covid, despite the fact that everyone of those people was already in hospice dying of something else? Bottom line, the number of covid deaths being put forth in this country is totally bogus. The real number is probably less than half of what we are being told!

Sorry, it is most likely UNDER REPORTED!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by rmd2

Yes, and now we know from Dr. Fauci's e-mails that the Wuhan Institute Covid studies of Gain of Function (COVID transfer to humans) was funded by Fauci at the NIH. Fauci used over $7,000,000 of our taxpayer dollars to research transfer of COVID to humans. Now we know the first cases of COVID were research staff in the Wuhan Institute. Fauci received e-mail information about the gain of function from other US researchers but ignored it. Dr. Fauci has already admitted he lied about some of the aspects of COVID transmittal as well as the times he changed his advice about masking, being with others, travel etc.

Dr. Fauci is a national treasure!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by joedi

Talk with a nurse who worked in ICU at the villages hospital and now is not because of the lies that were told. This nurse said over 500 villagers died and this person know because they helped put these people in Body bags so virus was contained inside bag. The truth was never been told because they dont want villagers to panic.

I believe that CV was undercounted nationwide.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by FromNY

Living with results of even a mild case is a nightmare.

If you say so...

I had a mild case 16 months ago... Mild fever for 36 hrs... My wife had mild flu-like symptoms for a week. Besides her temporary slight loss of taste and smell (for about a week), no "nightmares" here...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Byte1

At the Villages hospital? 500? Wow, was that due to the long waiting time in the Emergency Room?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Duh, could it be that CV is MORE transmissible and MORE deadly than the flu? Also, since flu shots have been available for years and are NOT new tech like CV shots - maybe people are very comfortable getting flu shots.

Well, I might agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong...

Gene Therapy is NOT "new tech"... It's been around for decades...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Sorry, it is most likely UNDER REPORTED!

Got any actual proof of that?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Dr. Fauci is a national treasure!

Sadly, he's done more to confuse the public about what do do than help...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Swoop

That actually took place in 1935, 20 years before Salk developed his vaccine. Needless to say, the results were not good and the distribution was suspended...

Even some of the production of Salk’s vaccine had issues: In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.

The big difference with polio is that it was indiscriminate, it effected the sick and the healthy & the old and the young alike. Anyone can potentially acquire Covid, but it doesn’t effect everyone equally. It effects the old, the obese and the unhealthy to a much greater degree than the balance of the population.
The idea of giving the vaccine to healthy children, is truly absurd. No one knows what the long term side effects can or will be. Why risk that when those children are statistically not at risk from Covid?!?

Because children are asymptomatic carriers of CV. To FULLY eradicate it, you have to vaccinate around 85% of the US. And therefore 85% of young children. Also, to start the school year, both parents and teachers need an 85% vaccination rate to give them peace of mind enough to send their children. The US needs educated children! Also, unvaccinated adults and children with CV who do NOT die are likely to come up with long-haul problems.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I believe that CV was undercounted nationwide.

Well, since we k now for a fact, that before an accurate test was developed, pretty much any flu-like death was attributed to covid...

And any death ( in hospice patients, who were sent to hospice to die comfortably), with a concurrent covid positive test was listed as a covid death...

And in certain areas, ANY death with a concurrent positive covid test (post mortem), even MVAs, were listed as covid deaths, I'll politely disagree...

Hell with that logic, George Floyd died of covid...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Who's crazy? Those who don't take the CV vaccine. This can be proven by the fact that the whole world is BEGGING for more US vaccinations. Who would I trust for my health advice? Most medical scientists and the whole world or you? It is not EVEN close!

Nice insult... I would never call someone who chooses not to take a vaccine "crazy".

One of my patients, a 90+ yo lady, in failing health, refused the vaccine. I asked her "Why?"

She responded that she'd been alive a very long time and when it was her time to go, it was her time to go... Hard to argue with that...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Swoop

I am sure the vaccines have had an impact. As I have stated before, the previous Covid viruses MERS & SARS weakened on their own. One lasted less than two years and the other outbreak lasted less than three years. There was no vaccine for either.

Many high risk individuals have died with Covid. A large number of the remaining high risk group have been vaccinated. At this point, roughly 1/2 of the US population has been vaccinated but Covid deaths are down at a considerably more than 50%.

I have always believed that if you are at risk, you should strongly consider getting vaccinated. However no one knows if there will be any long term side effects from the mRNA vaccines. So I still believe that personally, the potential risk outweighs the reward, considering I am not in the at risk group.

OK, good luck!