[stanley]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

. The US needs educated children! Also, unvaccinated adults and children with CV who do NOT die are likely to come up with long-haul problems.

The US needs educated adults.......where do you get your information, proof, with that statement?

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Because children are asymptomatic carriers of CV. To FULLY eradicate it, you have to vaccinate around 85% of the US. And therefore 85% of young children. Also, to start the school year, both parents and teachers need an 85% vaccination rate to give them peace of mind enough to send their children. The US needs educated children! Also, unvaccinated adults and children with CV who do NOT die are likely to come up with long-haul problems.

Where do you get your information?!? According to the CDC the long haulers have been primarily from the high risk group.
You, in good conscience, would inject a child, who is not in danger from Covid, with a vaccine that no one knows what the long term side effects will be?!? That’s sick!

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Who's crazy? Those who don't take the CV vaccine. This can be proven by the fact that the whole world is BEGGING for more US vaccinations. Who would I trust for my health advice? Most medical scientists and the whole world or you? It is not EVEN close!

Have you considered that the people who aren’t getting vaccinated feel that those who are getting vaccinated are the crazy ones? The vaccines haven’t been approved by the FDA; 2 were pulled back for awhile to further study the side effects; one seems to be an issue with blood clots in women under 50; and some younger people are having heart issues from the vaccines. Additionally it’s now been determined that there are a number of people who take immune suppressant drugs who’ve been vaccinated, yet they don’t carry the Covid antibodies just like an unvaccinated person unless they’ve had Covid. There is still a lot to learn about these vaccines relative to side effects and long term effects and efficiencies. So before calling people who feel differently than you, perhaps you should consider their position and their reasoning in saying no to vaccinations.

[Ben Franklin]

Originally Posted by Swoop

That actually took place in 1935, 20 years before Salk developed his vaccine. Needless to say, the results were not good and the distribution was suspended...

Even some of the production of Salk’s vaccine had issues: In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.

The big difference with polio is that it was indiscriminate, it effected the sick and the healthy & the old and the young alike. Anyone can potentially acquire Covid, but it doesn’t effect everyone equally. It effects the old, the obese and the unhealthy to a much greater degree than the balance of the population.
The idea of giving the vaccine to healthy children, is truly absurd. No one knows what the long term side effects can or will be. Why risk that when those children are statistically not at risk from Covid?!?

I don't know what they received in 1935. Salk's vaccine came in 1955. Cutter Labs created a defective batch of vaccine, thus the screw up belongs to them, not the vaccine.

My concern is we could see these unvaccinated people get the virus, keeping it alive and cause the virus to mutate, thus making our vaccines useless.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin

I don't know what they received in 1935. Salk's vaccine came in 1955. Cutter Labs created a defective batch of vaccine, thus the screw up belongs to them, not the vaccine.

My concern is we could see these unvaccinated people get the virus, keeping it alive and cause the virus to mutate, thus making our vaccines useless.

Covid viruses have historically mutated, it’s true, you can look it up. That’s why SARS & MERS are no longer headline worthy viruses...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Because children are asymptomatic carriers of CV. To FULLY eradicate it, you have to vaccinate around 85% of the US. And therefore 85% of young children. Also, to start the school year, both parents and teachers need an 85% vaccination rate to give them peace of mind enough to send their children. The US needs educated children! Also, unvaccinated adults and children with CV who do NOT die are likely to come up with long-haul problems.

Except, we were initially told (by Fauci) that herd immunity sets in at a 70% vaccination of the population...

What "long-haul" problems are children "likely" to get?

[drducat]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Dr. Fauci is a national treasure!

Well.....turns out Fauci has lied to the public and Congress...looking like he is a huge goner....will be fired and most likely stand trial. So with all the out right lies I no longer can trust what is coming out of the NIH along with CDC and FDA.....look really hard at this...I hope and pray those that took the vaccine will Not see further harm in the future...really sad that Fauci turned out to be a criminal.

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by Ptmckiou

Where have you been? This gene therapy has been worked on for over 15 years. They are able to use it now on most any type of vaccine which is a game changer in science. They have had entire documentaries interviewing the scientists that have been working on the gene therapy for decades.

They also have interviewed many people that were in the initial 30,000+ vaccine pipeline following their progress, NO! There was not hundreds killed and thousands sickened. There is zero proof to that statement.

Conspiracy theories are so unbecoming…. Btw, 1% of the USA population is 3.5 million people….that would be considered a devastating historical amount of death, by any historical data.

Yes, there were hundreds (now thousands) killed by the vaccines. From the Newsweek article linked below:

Our VAERS result showed 970 people died after being given a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine shot. Of those deaths, 495 occurred following a Moderna shot, and 475 occurred following a Pfizer shot.

Fact Check: Have 966 People Died After Receiving the COVID vaccine?

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

Yes, there were hundreds (now thousands) killed by the vaccines. From the Newsweek article linked below:

Our VAERS result showed 970 people died after being given a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine shot. Of those deaths, 495 occurred following a Moderna shot, and 475 occurred following a Pfizer shot.

Fact Check: Have 966 People Died After Receiving the COVID vaccine?

The linked article actually disputes, rather than supports, your conclusion that these deaths were from the vaccines. Quotes from the Newsweek article include:
"There are hundreds of reports of people having died after getting a COVID vaccine, but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine was the cause."
and
"However, it is false to say that COVID vaccines have caused 966 deaths, because the VAERS database is not designed to give this information. For example, in the dataset published by The Epoch Times, one of the people who died after getting a vaccine had also been injured in a car crash between getting the jab and the date of their death, but the case was still included in the dataset."

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Well, I might agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong...

Gene Therapy is NOT "new tech"... It's been around for decades...

But ... administering mRNA shots (not a vaccine) to humans is BRAND NEW. This is the first time. And, based on a very small pool of test subjects and very short time-frame of testing, this was given to hundreds of millions of people. My wife and I chose not to participate in this experiment.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've had all the major vaccines growing up as have my kids. But mRNA is new and the results are not in yet.

From the article linked below:

The world’s first mRNA vaccine has begun its rollout after being produced at unprecedented speed as part of the global effort to end the Covid-19 pandemic. A second one is hot on its heels. The two – one made by Pfizer/BioNTech and the other by Moderna – mark the first time this vaccine technology has been approved for use.

Five things you need to know about: mRNA vaccine safety | Horizon: the EU Research & Innovation magazine | European Commission

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

But ... administering mRNA shots (not a vaccine) to humans is BRAND NEW. This is the first time. And, based on a very small pool of test subjects and very short time-frame of testing, this was given to hundreds of millions of people. My wife and I chose not to participate in this experiment.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've had all the major vaccines growing up as have my kids. But mRNA is new and the results are not in yet.


...

If you are not an anti-vaxxer but just afraid of the mRNA vaccines, this site will help you find the Janssen vaccine in our local area. There seem to be several Publix stores with availability today.

[allsport]

The current stats say 30% of covid cases are long haulers which means you will be traveling around with oxygen. Sounds like a great plan.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

Yes, there were hundreds (now thousands) killed by the vaccines. From the Newsweek article linked below:

Our VAERS result showed 970 people died after being given a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine shot. Of those deaths, 495 occurred following a Moderna shot, and 475 occurred following a Pfizer shot.

Fact Check: Have 966 People Died After Receiving the COVID vaccine?

Did you even bother to read the article you linked?

It stated people died after getting the vaccine. Not FROM getting the vaccine...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by allsport

The current stats say 30% of covid cases are long haulers which means you will be traveling around with oxygen. Sounds like a great plan.

Please cite a link to those numbers...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

But ... administering mRNA shots (not a vaccine) to humans is BRAND NEW. This is the first time. And, based on a very small pool of test subjects and very short time-frame of testing, this was given to hundreds of millions of people.

Incorrect...

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC