[angiefox10]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I am curious - those celebrating this decision - do you see any reason polygamy should not also be recognized and those families afforded the same rights?

Honestly... I don't! Now... again... if you want to use the bible....

"The first polygamist mentioned in the Bible is Lamech, whose two wives were Adah and Zillah (Gen 4:19). Abraham's wives were Sarah, Hagar (Gen 16:3, 21:1-13), Keturah (Gen 25:1), and concubines (who are referred to as "wives" in other parts of the Bible) (Gen 25:6). Jacob's four wives are Leah and Rachel (Gen 29:28) and despite an oath with their father Laban to not take any additional wives (Gen 31:48-54), Jacob took Bilhah (Gen 30:4) and Zilpah (Gen 30:9). Moses' two wives were Zipporah (Ex 2:21, Ex 18:1-6) and an Ethiopian woman (Num 12:1). Interestingly enough, Aaron and Miriam were punished for disapproving of Moses' forbidden marriage. Gideon "had many wives" (Judges 8:29-32). Elkanah, Samuel's father, had two wives, Hannah and Peninnah (1 Samuel 1:1-2). An accurate list of David's wives would include at least five named wives: Michal (1 Sam 18:27, 19:11-18, 25:44; 2 Sam 3:13-14, 6:20-23), Abigail of Carmel (1 Sam 25:39, 1 Chr 3), Ahinoam of Jezreel (1 Sam 25:43, 1 Chr 3), Eglah (2 Sam 3:4-5, 1 Chr 3) and Bathsheba (2 Sam 12:24). David also took "more wives and concubines" in 2 Sam 5:13, 12:7-8, 1 Chr 14:3. Three additional women are mentioned, but we are not told if they are wives or concubines: Maacah (2 Sam 3:3, 1 Chr 3), Abital (2 Sam 3:3-4, 1 Chr 3) and Haggith (2 Sam 3:3, 1 Chr 3). Lastly, there are the ten concubines, or wives as they are referred to in 2 Sam 5:13, 15:16, 16:21-23, 1 Chr 14:3, bringing David's total to at least 22+ "wives/concubines". According to 1 Kings 11:3, David's son Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines."

Polygamy in Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not "arguing* the bible... just pointing out the scriptures... for those keeping track! *smile*

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I am curious - those celebrating this decision - do you see any reason polygamy should not also be recognized and those families afforded the same rights?

Polygamy was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court years ago, when it was a common practice among Mormons. Even with this court decision, it is rarely prosecuted today.

[angiefox10]

Yeah... Remember when they said that if you gave women equal rights the gays would want it too????


Wait... what????

[Golfingnut]

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I am curious - those celebrating this decision - do you see any reason polygamy should not also be recognized and those families afforded the same rights?

I think polygamy is a lifestyle choice. I think that being born female or Asian or gay or Afro-American is due to genes and chromosomes.

[Bill Tasker]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I think polygamy is a lifestyle choice. I think that being born female or Asian or gay or Afro-American is due to genes and chromosomes.

Exactly.

[angiefox10]

It will be interesting to see how many of those men marry all those women considering the ramifications of divorce...

Apologies for being off topic.

[rubicon]

I find it rather ironic that as a mostly secular nation Russia on June 11 enacted some of the strictest anti-gay laws in the world stigmatizing gay people and bans giving children any information about homosexuality and bans gay parades. The lower house in Russia passed and the upper house approved the law.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I find it rather ironic that as a mostly secular nation Russia on June 11 enacted some of the strictest anti-gay laws in the world stigmatizing gay people and bans giving children any information about homosexuality and bans gay parades. The lower house in Russia passed and the upper house approved the law.

I hope you are not suggesting we follow the lead of Russia.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I think polygamy is a lifestyle choice. I think that being born female or Asian or gay or Afro-American is due to genes and chromosomes.

Barefoot: While I agree with you in part the issue here is not genetics v non genetics as your counter to this poster. However, the poster was correct. The operative words being life choice"

Striking down DOMA has opened up a Pandora's box.

Polygamy is a man's life choice and the 40 women who wish to marry him. DOMA no longer means a marriage between a man and woman. In my view polygamy is the lesser of concerns. Wait until crazies come out of the wood work. DOMA has been struck down for all intent and purposes. In my view in the specious call for human rights, social justice etc the Court has juxtaposition this oxymoron called same sex marriage . there ahs always been a remedy so that same sex couples could have their relationships and their benefits. DOMA provided valuable protection to this nation and unfortunately too many people viewed this same sex thing as the same as the racial thing because they got to emotional. Clearly all peoples have a right to be protected but different situations require different approaches
As much as some of us don't like to hear it while we are all afforded equal protection that does not make us equal Jus Ask bill Gates, Donald Trump Brad Pitt or Tiger Woods

[vito711]

So much for no political posts.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

I hope you are not suggesting we follow the lead of Russia.

Golfingnut: I am not suggesting anything but only making an observation... The operative word is "ironic"....meaning that much of the discussion here has been God's/Bible view and here we have a secular godless nation enacting anti-gay laws.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by vito711

So much for no political posts.

vito711 Mi scusi. Io non penso. This thread is not political but an ongoing intelligent and factual dialogue revolving around a current event which by the way is being handled in a very civil manner by posters. Its end product will leave most satisified or least with a better understanding of what has occurred.

If you want to really view political upheaval visit the Restaurant Discussion Thread

Ciao

[Quixote]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Golfingnut: I am not suggesting anything but only making an observation... The operative word is "ironic"....meaning that much of the discussion here has been God's/Bible view and here we have a secular godless nation enacting anti-gay laws.

This essentially validates the view of many posters that there is no connection between legalities pertaining to gays and lesbians (whether pro or anti) and God, the Bible, and religion!

Yes, the U.S. and Russia are, like most nations, secular. But to call Russia "godless" is completely erroneous. The Russian Orthodox Church is alive and well, churches are open and active, but of course it is a personal choice to participate or not. When Russia was part of the USSR, which dissolved nearly a quarter century ago, the leadership attempted to take religion out of the equation of life there but were ultimately as unsuccessful as they were with their failed economic system, which was destined from day one not to function on the basis of "we pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us"....

[Taltarzac725]

Religion in Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia