A friend of mine posted this on Facebook in reference to gun control. It's not only food for thought to those in favor of gun control; it's also a belief that some of us that have CCL's think of when we are out in a public place nowadays -

"I stand behind you in line at the store with a smile on my face...and a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me next to you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a fanatic walks into the store and pulls out a weapon, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family and therefore protect you and your family. I may get shot before I pull that trigger...but, I won't die in a helpless blubbering heap on the floor begging for my life or my wife's life. I won't be that victim. I choose not to be. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun, If you are not comfortable, then please don't. But I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim. There is evil in this world and if evil has a gun, I want one too..."

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Callaway Guy

A friend of mine posted this on Facebook in reference to gun control. It's not only food for thought to those in favor of gun control; it's also a belief that some of us that have CCL's think of when we are out in a public place nowadays -

"I stand behind you in line at the store with a smile on my face...and a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me next to you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a fanatic walks into the store and pulls out a weapon, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family and therefore protect you and your family. I may get shot before I pull that trigger...but, I won't die in a helpless blubbering heap on the floor begging for my life or my wife's life. I won't be that victim. I choose not to be. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun, If you are not comfortable, then please don't. But I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim. There is evil in this world and if evil has a gun, I want one too..."

Amen.

[twinklesweep]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism and other beliefs, including atheism are not the problem. EXTREMISM is the problem. People practicing their own beliefs is not the problem. Extremists that condemn people of other beliefs are the problem. People who hate and/or kill other people in the name of God are extremists. They are the problem in San Bernardino, Colorado Springs, Paris, London, the Middle East, New York City, and The Villages.

Exceptionally well said! Some of the worst atrocities and wars throughout history were--and still are being--committed in the name of God and/or religion. And I believe that history has tremendous relevance to current events.

[twinklesweep]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

First automatic weapons are not being sold to the general public. Although it is possible to buy a fully automatic weapon, you first acquire a special license from ATF, then the cheapest automatic weapon I saw was about $20K. There is nothing special about an assault style weapon....

I am curious what the practical applications are of a "fully automatic weapon" for a law-abiding civilian who likely would qualify for the required "special license from ATF."

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Callaway Guy

A friend of mine posted this on Facebook in reference to gun control. It's not only food for thought to those in favor of gun control; it's also a belief that some of us that have CCL's think of when we are out in a public place nowadays -

"I stand behind you in line at the store with a smile on my face...and a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me next to you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a fanatic walks into the store and pulls out a weapon, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family and therefore protect you and your family. I may get shot before I pull that trigger...but, I won't die in a helpless blubbering heap on the floor begging for my life or my wife's life. I won't be that victim. I choose not to be. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun, If you are not comfortable, then please don't. But I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim. There is evil in this world and if evil has a gun, I want one too..."

Very considerate way of informing our neighbors how we see and believe.
Well done.

[biker1]

Lets go point by point.

1) You cannot buy automatic weapons in this country, with the exception of some collectors. Please check your facts in the future.
2) "Assault-type rifles" is some made up term. What weapons, specifically, are you referring to? And don't say automatic weapons because you can't buy those.
3) Gun dealers must do back-ground checks when they sell at gun shows. Clearly you have latched onto some piece of misinformation. Please check your facts in the future.
4) Yes, the background check system can probably be strengthened.
5) Regarding the ownership of multiple guns, get real. It is not unusual for hunters to have several rifles. This right is protected by law.
6) What gun safety technologies are you referring to?
7) Two-thirds of the 32000 gun deaths are suicide. This is a mental health issue and not a gun issue.
8) I really don't care if you didn't like my comment about the president. It is true.

Originally Posted by Cathy H

begin by re-instating the national law to stop selling automatic military rifles to anyone; then offer buy-back for assualt-type rifles now out there (like they did in Australia); stop all gun-show sales that do not do back-ground checks; strengthen the background check system for all gun purchases; do not allow ownership of multiple guns; introduce new gun safety technology in gun manufacture. 32000 americans die from gunshots every year. your cheap shot at our President was not appreciated.

[biker1]

Collectors.

Originally Posted by twinklesweep

I am curious what the practical applications are of a "fully automatic weapon" for a law-abiding civilian who likely would qualify for the required "special license from ATF."

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by jblum315

Well, this time it was a Muslim female. So where's your pattern now?

Uh, the 800 pound gorilla in the room?

[Cedwards38]

What we can learn from other advanced countries about gun control:

http://www.newsweek.com/gun-control-...untries-379105

The facts about background checks at gun shows:

Gun Show Background Checks State Laws

[graciegirl]

Does anyone think that changing gun laws or if by some way all guns were removed from the populace and all things like gun shows were abolished that we would not still have the extreme problem that is so frightening in this world?


Our all inclusive morality is making it easier. Our foundation of religious freedom is making it easier. Our fight against all hatred and our acceptance of diversity is making it easier. Our very politeness and being raised to be fair is making it easier for an ugly and horrible ideology to spread and sneak around and lay waiting to kill us, the infidels.

[HeyGeorge]

Originally Posted by Cathy H

about 300 million guns now in the hands of americans. this is crazy.

not sure what's crazy about this. Isoroku Yamamoto, The Commander in Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy made the following statement after Pearl Harbor "You can not invade the mainland United States - there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." How many other nations feared attaching us because of our second amendment. Our problem is we have too many gun free zones. We are setting our citizens up as sitting ducks. Do you think the carnage would be so high if there was a gun in every pocket?

[outlaw]

Thank God France has very strict gun control laws. Imagine what could have happened during their most recent terrorist attack.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Does anyone think that changing gun laws or if by some way all guns were removed from the populace and all things like gun shows were abolished that we would not still have the extreme problem that is so frightening in this world?


Our all inclusive morality is making it easier. Our foundation of religious freedom is making it easier. Our fight against all hatred and our acceptance of diversity is making it easier. Our very politeness and being raised to be fair is making it easier for an ugly and horrible ideology to spread and sneak around and lay waiting to kill us, the infidels.

bump

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by twinklesweep

I am curious what the practical applications are of a "fully automatic weapon" for a law-abiding civilian who likely would qualify for the required "special license from ATF."

Mostly collectors. I believe there is a gun range in Orlando that has automatic Weapons you can rent for their range and I believe they also have instructions on using them. Some people just want to see how they work and what its like to shoot a fully automatic weapon. I had enough of that in the service. I may be wrong but I believe the license fee is $250 for the permit and the ATF and FBI will know you on a personal basis. But the cost of the automatic weapon itself is the price of a very nice new Automobile. Then there is the cost of ammunition. Someone who had thoughts of doing something illegal would not go through the normal channels as these weapons are pretty well followed by ATF.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

My personal review of 'the speech' last night.

words were spoken. yawn.

I agree but what else can he really say. The truth is lone wolf self radicalized attacks by an extremist are not possible to defend against. Evil shifts its tactics based on the defending response.