[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by biker1

You can now get daily usage. I was under the impression that we were going to be able to get usage in 15 min increments. Eventually, I believe they will be going to different rates based on the time of day.

I have only had my meter for about two weeks but I suspect it will take 30-60 days before there is enough data to start populating those screens.

There are already time of use (TOU) rates published. These meters will enable TOU billing but we'll have to see whether that is going to be a choice or a mandate.

[biker1]

I have had mine a bit longer and the daily usage is available now. No sign of the 15 min usage yet.

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I have only had my meter for about two weeks but I suspect it will take 30-60 days before there is enough data to start populating those screens.

There are already time of use (TOU) rates published. These meters will enable TOU billing but we'll have to see whether that is going to be a choice or a mandate.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by biker1

You can now get daily usage. I was under the impression that we were going to be able to get usage in 15 min increments. Eventually, I believe they will be going to different rates based on the time of day.

Each day it does breakdown per 15 min increments. Our pool creates very little wattage according to bar graft. It’s very consistent without running heater. The large spikes for AC correlates with run times.

Even with the hour based usage that was posted few months back Nov-Mar . The majority of SOP (midnight-6a) for us shouldn’t make much of a $ increase. We run pool pump with heater from midnight to 7am during Jan/Feb so temp is at 78 for early swim. Since AC rarely runs Nov-March some may actually save on hour based pricing.
But just an observation for our needs

[biker1]

OK, thanks, I took another look and just found the 15 minute data.

Originally Posted by asianthree

Each day it does breakdown per 15 min increments. Our pool creates very little wattage according to bar graft. It’s very consistent without running heater. The large spikes for AC correlates with run times.

Even with the hour based usage that was posted few months back Nov-Mar . The majority of SOP (midnight-6a) for us shouldn’t make much of a $ increase. We run pool pump with heater from midnight to 7am during Jan/Feb so temp is at 78 for early swim. Since AC rarely runs Nov-March some may actually save on hour based pricing.
But just an observation for our needs

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by biker1

OK, thanks, I took another look and just found the 15 minute data.

Once you get your bill it will break down different items from information you gave the app. The “always on” has us baffled, our second bill month will end in a week. So hopefully will be able to have better answers in a few weeks. We had some electrical work done, so full power was shut off 8:01a to 1203p will see how it’s reflected in tomorrow’s daily usage.

I do find the breakdowns interesting. We are creatures of habit, laundry 6a dishwasher 1am just before bed to get that last glass. Our hot water, stove and dryer are gas, so added to the app info. We created an every 15 minute verbal chart with Alexa, for 7 days and Our computer geek grand, has decided to breakdown app. Once completed he will submit a reconfiguration of app for credit to his professor. So new toy put to good use.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Once you get your bill it will break down different items from information you gave the app. The “always on” has us baffled, our second bill month will end in a week. So hopefully will be able to have better answers in a few weeks. We had some electrical work done, so full power was shut off 8:01a to 1203p will see how it’s reflected in tomorrow’s daily usage.

I do find the breakdowns interesting. We are creatures of habit, laundry 6a dishwasher 1am just before bed to get that last glass. Our hot water, stove and dryer are gas, so added to the app info. We created an every 15 minute verbal chart with Alexa, for 7 days and Our computer geek grand, has decided to breakdown app. Once completed he will submit a reconfiguration of app for credit to his professor. So new toy put to good use.

"Always on" could include things like your television in sleep mode, the garage door opener and wall units, any chargers you have plugged in but are not currently using, all those surge suppressors with the little light to show that they are on, GFCI outlets with the little light, any smart device, your stove and microwave, etc.

[CarlR33]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

"Always on" could include things like your television in sleep mode, the garage door opener and wall units, any chargers you have plugged in but are not currently using, all those surge suppressors with the little light to show that they are on, GFCI outlets with the little light, any smart device, your stove and microwave, etc.

Yes, Alexa is robbing you of power while waiting on a command so don’t blame the electric utility for energizing her, LOL

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

"Always on" could include things like your television in sleep mode, the garage door opener and wall units, any chargers you have plugged in but are not currently using, all those surge suppressors with the little light to show that they are on, GFCI outlets with the little light, any smart device, your stove and microwave, etc.

That was a given, for items that had to be tethered to power 24/7 like WiFi, microwave, list goes on. GFCI outlets no longer have lights.
So as a one month experiment we evaluated all things we leave plugged in just for convenience, don’t use. For the second bill period, we unplugged everything in 2nd primary, and two guest bedrooms, 3 bathrooms (lamps Alexas nightlights). All chargers (laptops, iPads phones robot printers) until we need them about every 3-7days. Toaster, blenders, coffee pots. One doesn’t realize how many items are plugged in but not being used until you do a room by room.

As an experiment for our grandson, paper will see if his pre calculations are correct, evaluate watt per item, and how app is calculating use. Plus if life of products will increase

[Priebehouse]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Mine was installed nine days before the end of my billing cycle. I can see that I used very close to 40kWh/day for those nine days. I was gone for most of the month of July last year but in the month of August 2023 I also used 40kWh/day. As far as I can see in this very short period of time, the new meter is reading exactly the same as the old meter.

...what did SECO say? This forum can't help. If they give you a wild explanation, let us know.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Priebehouse

...what did SECO say? This forum can't help. If they give you a wild explanation, let us know.

If SECO gives me a wild explanation for what, why the meter change was transparent to me and I used the same amount of power this year as I did last year?

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Priebehouse

...what did SECO say? This forum can't help. If they give you a wild explanation, let us know.

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If SECO gives me a wild explanation for what, why the meter change was transparent to me and I used the same amount of power this year as I did last year?

So it’s not just me reading posts before coffee,
priebehouse post confused me about your response that new and old meter is reading about the same.
Thought if was very helpful to the OP.

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by It's Hot There

Any body else's usage jump with the new meter???

Last month SECO installed the new smart meter.
On their website, last month included both the old meter and new meter.
As a result, there were two "usage" reads.

The average temp from June to July increased from 81 to 83 degrees.
(according to their website)
But when you add both meter's usage, our usage went up 100%.

No Way!!

Any body else??
Thanks in advance.

The new meters charge a rate for time of day and time of year and is not conducive to using anything during the summertime day. The snowbird season has the best rates. Do all your housekeeping, cooking business after hours and before the sun rises. Watch the a/c thermostat. Vampires get the best benefit from the new rate structures

[Wondering]

Originally Posted by It's Hot There

Any body else's usage jump with the new meter???

Last month SECO installed the new smart meter.
On their website, last month included both the old meter and new meter.
As a result, there were two "usage" reads.

The average temp from June to July increased from 81 to 83 degrees.
(according to their website)
But when you add both meter's usage, our usage went up 100%.

No Way!!

Any body else??
Thanks in advance.

Without your numbers, I can't determine if what you are stating is accurate.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

The new meters charge a rate for time of day and time of year and is not conducive to using anything during the summertime day. The snowbird season has the best rates. Do all your housekeeping, cooking business after hours and before the sun rises. Watch the a/c thermostat. Vampires get the best benefit from the new rate structures

NO.

The new meters report usage by the time of day but they do not affect how you are billed.

SECO has two billing rates for residential customers, the one we are all currently on and a time of use (TOU) billing. The new meters enable TOU billing but do not require it.

I haven't heard of anyone who is on the TOU billing...yet.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

NO.

The new meters report usage by the time of day but they do not affect how you are billed.

SECO has two billing rates for residential customers, the one we are all currently on and a time of use (TOU) billing. The new meters enable TOU billing but do not require it.

I haven't heard of anyone who is on the TOU billing...yet.

We are on month two of new meter. Even though we have not experienced the possible TOU yet, we geared pool, thermostat, dishwasher, washer with the rates and time that have been hinted at. Really didn’t change much from how we used electricity before.
We did start pool hour earlier, and I know all of our electric based pet items are a bigger draw than some expect (refrigerated multi day food bowl, flow water dish, and auto litter). Our cameras are next, then the WiFi. We have already noticed a daily difference by unplugging unused items in the 3 front bedrooms and bathrooms.