[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by biker1

As far as I can tell, SECO hasn’t gone to varying rates based on time. Can you provide a link to the incentives?

Originally Posted by Fastskiguy

You get 7 bucks a month by charging midnight to 6am. So that’s how much they are worried about when you charge your ev.

That appears to be a Duke Energy program. I cannot find anything similar for SECO.

SECO does have a time of use rate chart but there is no information on their website about how to request it. My back of the envelope calculations seemed to show that it wouldn't save me anything but it might be beneficial to someone with an EV charger.

[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

That appears to be a Duke Energy program. I cannot find anything similar for SECO.

SECO does have a time of use rate chart but there is no information on their website about how to request it. My back of the envelope calculations seemed to show that it wouldn't save me anything but it might be beneficial to someone with an EV charger.

Whoops, yep, you’re right. I’ll just go a little more off topic and mention that 1/2 of the time we just use the 110v plug to charge 12am-6am because it’s just a bit closer to the car than the big level 2 charger We have 30,000 miles on the car in almost exactly 2 years so it’s getting decent use.

Joe

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There are many reasons why electrical vehicles will begin replacing Internal Combustion Engines. 1) Judging by today's news, we can see oil and gasoline prices going UP. 2) The US gets a lot of electricity from river dams, wind generators, and solar panels. 3) Nuclear Energy power plants are getting smaller and safer. Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) can produce from 5 to 400 Mega Watts of electricity. They are factory produced and can be transported to any area. They have INCREASED SAFETY FEATURES. Their small size alone helps make they safe. Right now their only disadvantage is the public's fear of nuclear energy. In the future they will keep getting smaller to the point that each home may have their own unit. 4) Battery technology is improving with things like solid state batteries and better safety and more range. 5) The EV has fewer parts than an ICE vehicle and eventually will cost less and be more reliable. 6) Electric vehicles use will improve the air quality and restore ocean reefs. More fish protein will be available for future generations. 7) Oil can be used for pharmacy products which could bring down prescription costs. 8) The US will be less dependent on Middle East oil, which is a dangerous part of the world.

Here another opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sytWLB4-W-M

[Laraine]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I think saving the world, one Air Conditioner at a time, is a great start. Try to get your neighbors on the program, in case someone in the neighborhood buys an EV. I think the ratio is about 3 AC's to 1 EV.

On top of the EVs, don't forget to add in the expected 50-100% increase in the power grid needed for all the planned AI/computer cloud data centers. Not to mention the current grid needs plenty of updating for reliability. Something has to give.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Never mind the electrical grid to charge cars, which it can’t do now, but imagine just one companies fleet of semi trucks. Power companies and municipalities are laughing at them.
Next, consider the environmental impact of just what it takes to manufacture a car/truck battery. That alone is another huge environmental problem.
Now we haven’t even got to the infrastructure yet. Roads, bridges, parking garages are NOT designed for all the added weight.
So yeah, you THINK you are doing well driving ev. But it’s just the opposite when you look at the big picture.
You have been snookered by something we can’t mentioned on here, lest we get kicked off.
Green it is not.

In the future, batteries will be smaller, lighter, cheaper, and easy to recycle. They will also last longer than current batteries. Also, when you consider how many ICE 18 wheel trucks there are on the roads today, I doubt that additional EV cars and trucks in the future would wear out roads faster. The US would probably move freight faster if they made more RAILROAD lines. It would also produce LESS pollution than the diesel big rigs. Less pollution would lead to better upper air quality, which would lead to smaller hurricanes, which is important to Floridians.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz

Unfortunately, the US is falling behind year after year in modernization in technology. We are still doing things like the 1970’s when we could have built up our infrastructure. You travel to other countries that have kept up in modern infrastructure, like Dubai, and it’s shocking how behind we really are because our government doesn’t want to modernize. I sometimes wonder if that’s due to the average age of congress members. Older ways of thinking wanting to take us back to “good ole days” instead of moving forward.

Yes, I own an EV and love it. I didn’t buy it “to save the planet”. I bought it because I like the lifestyle…no more oil changes/maintenance, no more needing to always go gas up, better technology. The first time my new EV needs to go to the dealership for maintenance is in its 3rd year and it’s just to run diagnostics. I like that. I also like that BMW has batteries that have individual cells, so if at any time in the future there are battery issues, you don’t replace an entire battery but only those cells that are faulty (80 cells). Much lower cost replacing individual cells. The US will be prepared when our government decides it wants to join countries with advanced infrastructure instead of old technologies. I’m sure young people will be pushing us into the future with many kicking and screaming.

I agree with all of your post and I think that Congress people should have a 2 term maximum.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

It's about time someone considered the Fish Protein issue.

Somehow, I suspected who it would be 😂

Coral reefs are VERY important to SCUBA divers and professional and amateur salt water fishermen. It is important to the Florida tourist trade. Coral reefs are indications of environmental degradation. In 100 years Midwest farm production will be only 40% of what it is today. Look it up and ask ,"do we want to do that to our future generations" just to make oil executives rich? The choice to buy an electric vehicle versus a gas vehicle, has many ramifications for the whole Earth's future.

[biker1]

Remind us of which EV you drive.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Coral reefs are VERY important to SCUBA divers and professional and amateur salt water fishermen. It is important to the Florida tourist trade. Coral reefs are indications of environmental degradation. In 100 years Midwest farm production will be only 40% of what it is today. Look it up and ask ,"do we want to do that to our future generations" just to make oil executives rich? The choice to buy an electric vehicle versus a gas vehicle, has many ramifications for the whole Earth's future.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by biker1

Remind us of which EV you drive.

Does that really matter? I am wheelchair bound and I get everything delivered by Amazon (which has many ELECTRIC vehicles).

[biker1]

Then stop lecturing people on what you think they should do. Nobody cares but it is a real annoyance to keep seeing your posts.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Does that really matter? I am wheelchair bound and I get everything delivered by Amazon (which has many ELECTRIC vehicles).

[Battlebasset]

Have no idea. I just know that I'm not ready for one as my only car. I think most people are in the same boat as me.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by biker1

Then stop lecturing people on what you think they should do. Nobody cares but it is a real annoyance to keep seeing your posts.

He sound like her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGa_4vp3rNE

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I agree with all of your post and I think that Congress people should have a 2 term maximum.

It’s not representative it’s the districts that keeps voting them in time after time.

[bopat]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

How do people without garages or driveways charge their cars overnight? Think apartments, condos , street parking, etc.

They'd ride public transit

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by biker1

Then stop lecturing people on what you think they should do. Nobody cares but it is a real annoyance to keep seeing your posts.

^ Concur 100%