[frayedends]

Originally Posted by It's Hot There

That's an intruder (trespasser), not a squatter.

Don't squatters break in to vacant homes, have a fake lease written up and try to stay there? I mean, yeah they are intruders but also squatters.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

If you are dealing with a competent squatter, you wouldn't be able to walk in because they would have changed the locks.

But, if you execute a legal lease to a squatter hunter, they can hire a locksmith to change the locks, and move in with all the same rights as the squatter. They can bring a large dog (or two) who barks a lot and is not house broken, play loud music 24/7, make a huge mess in the kitchen and bathrooms, and walk around the house with loaded AK-47. I would also think they could remove all the interior doors and put them in storage. This is all legal and will get rid of the squatters much faster than a lawyer and a civil court.

Well when I lock myself out - doesn’t happen these days as I put extra key in master lock box like real estate people or give it to neighbor. I enter by breaking the window. But I prefer your idea of squatter chaser.
What about smoke bomb, fogging, tear gas etc? I’d figure out which one was legal (for bugs - big and small).

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by frayedends

I did not say I would shoot them. Of course if I found myself being threatened upon entering my own home I can't say I wouldn't defend myself. But usually just the mere presence of an armed individual diffuses the situation very quickly.

I was once approached at a gas station by 4 very unsavory looking fellas in Dorchester MA (not the nicest area). Before they were within 15 feet I made it known I was armed with a simple opening of my jacket. The turned around and left.

Edit to add: I would not be in a situation where a squatter was a legit renter first or anything like that. A squatter in my home would have had to broken in and taken up residence while I was up north. So maybe not the same situation as some renter that stopped paying.

Dirty DOT. Love it

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Question : After all that Charles Bronson tactic, should he, the hunter discharge the AK-47 or have Major the K9 take a bite outta crime on my behalf.....what part and how much of the ACLU suit against me and my estate will I be responsible for?

Asking for a law student

I didn't suggest doing anything illegal. But, apparently, your plan would be to pay a lawyer thousands of dollars and wait months for a civil court judge to issue an eviction notice while the squatter destroys your house. No thanks.

[Normal]

Can the homeless be evicted from recreation center areas? You know the ones that use the dog park hoses for showers etc. Are they squatters?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I didn't suggest doing anything illegal. But, apparently, your plan would be to pay a lawyer thousands of dollars and wait months for a civil court judge to issue an eviction notice while the squatter destroys your house. No thanks.

Both scenarios aren’t ideal but from a liability/ financial standpoint....you do you

[Velvet]

The most difficult “squatters” to get rid of are family and friends - if you still want a relationship with them. It is best to be super careful who you invite to stay in your house for even a short time. I suppose if necessary, you could start renovations, change the flooring etc which requires everything to be moved out of wherever they are staying… you could pay to move them into a hotel, then stop paying the bills after a bit explaining you can’t do it anymore.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Both scenarios aren’t ideal but from a liability/ financial standpoint....you do you

Liability? Stranger squatters are full out invaders of your home.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Liability? Stranger squatters are full out invaders of your home.

If you read this whole thread, you would know the term 'squatter' is ambiguous. If someone enters your home and helps himself without your permission...thats a home invasion. Do what you have e a legal right to do. But I have no empathy for lazy, greedy owners who 'rent out' spaces to individuals that clearly are not vetted. Then act like a victim when you cant oust your vermin. Or have to call Dog the Squatter Hunter to clean up your mess. If someone is in your house, uninvited, call LEO. If you let them in, enjoy your retirement savings vaporize to Better call Saul. Don't conflate sir. You hire a 'contractor' with an AK 47 loaded and his fur baby Orca...and they injure, even a scumbag....enjoy the consequences.

[biker1]

S&W 500? If a malevolent elephant breaks into your home then you are all set ;-)

Originally Posted by Normal

Both S&W 500 in one night stand and Glock 40 in the other. If anyone makes trouble, then it’s trouble they will get.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by biker1

S&W 500? If a malevolent elephant breaks into your home then you are all set ;-)

The ammo is expensive, but if a slug stops a perp, then it is all worth it.

[biker1]

I've shot a couple of rounds from a S&W 500. Just pointing that thing at someone should be sufficient to make then run in the other direction and require a change in underwear.

Originally Posted by Normal

The ammo is expensive, but if a slug stops a perp, then it is all worth it.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

If you read this whole thread, you would know the term 'squatter' is ambiguous. If someone enters your home and helps himself without your permission...thats a home invasion. Do what you have e a legal right to do. But I have no empathy for lazy, greedy owners who 'rent out' spaces to individuals that clearly are not vetted. Then act like a victim when you cant oust your vermin. Or have to call Dog the Squatter Hunter to clean up your mess. If someone is in your house, uninvited, call LEO. If you let them in, enjoy your retirement savings vaporize to Better call Saul. Don't conflate sir. You hire a 'contractor' with an AK 47 loaded and his fur baby Orca...and they injure, even a scumbag....enjoy the consequences.

Yes, I follow you. I guess that is the reason why even though I leave a couple of homes empty for long periods of time - with security and property management while I’m away, I would never consider renting out. Up north especially, renters view the place they rent as their home. This concept always bewildered me because if you rent a car it is not “your car” so why would a place you rent be “your place”? In my view, it should be up to government services to provide shelter for those who can’t afford it. I’ll happily support charity, subsidy etc
to help out but on my terms.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

If you read this whole thread, you would know the term 'squatter' is ambiguous. If someone enters your home and helps himself without your permission...thats a home invasion. Do what you have e a legal right to do. But I have no empathy for lazy, greedy owners who 'rent out' spaces to individuals that clearly are not vetted. Then act like a victim when you cant oust your vermin. Or have to call Dog the Squatter Hunter to clean up your mess. If someone is in your house, uninvited, call LEO. If you let them in, enjoy your retirement savings vaporize to Better call Saul. Don't conflate sir. You hire a 'contractor' with an AK 47 loaded and his fur baby Orca...and they injure, even a scumbag....enjoy the consequences.

The problem is that, in some states, what you are calling a home invader in your second sentence, the law calls them a squatter with tenant rights. Law enforcement may tell you that they cannot help you because it is a civil matter. Then, it can take months to evict the squatter, home invader, or whatever you want to call them.

[retiredguy123]

How many tenants verify that the landlord who signs the lease is actually the property owner or an authorized agent? There are scammers who find a vacant house and advertise it for rent. Then, they show the house to a tenant, provide a fraudulent lease, and collect a security deposit. The tenant then becomes an unwitting squatter. Easy money for the scammer, but a huge problem for the tenant and the owner.