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DianeM 03-15-2014 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 845505)
Yes, seriously. The times they are a-changing. I invite you to go try to learn a foreign language at your age and see how difficult it is. Then try to fill out a form in that language. Then go try to hire some Americans to go pick your fruit.

That language lesson wouod be out of courtesy to the new country I moved to if I were to do that. It is wrong to expect millions who speak a language to learn English to accommodate me. If I cannot assimilate into a culture then I don't belong there.

DianeM 03-15-2014 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 845533)
We lived in France for a period of time. When making a phone call I never heard ...FOR ENGLISH PRESS 1. I don't think this thread is about not being understanding of people who have accents or do not speak English. This thread is about primarily English speaking people calling a customer service number and NOT receiving customer service because the people they are speaking to do not have a good command of the English language. Why call if you can not understand the person you are speaking to? It is not bigoted or intolerant, it is just common sense. I called because I need information. if I cannot understand the information you are giving me the call is a waste of my time and a waste of money for the company paying a person that I cannot understand. As I said before, these calls are for communication. If one or the other does not understand the language, we are NOT communicating. It' as simple as that.

You nailed it. If we can't communicate there is no customer service.

buzzy 03-15-2014 07:15 AM

Maybe "no customer service" is the company's desired result, anyway. This lack of communication shields the company from customer complaints. Saves money in two ways.

The Buckeyes 03-15-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 844850)
From the title of the thread "Take Back the USA" and referring to an employee as Hashish does not show just the difficulty of understanding an employee but, to me, shows an attitude of intolerance toward others of foreign extraction.

CFrance seems to be in the Buggy camp. Welcome to the brightness!

Someone please explain to me why I must press 1 for English! :rant-rave:

quirky3 03-15-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Matzy (Post 845590)
Well, one positive thing when you get someone from India or Philippines: THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE AT THE OTHER END - no machine. Isn't that already a progress? (just kidding)

Actually, there is some truth to that. Remember the days when automated phone menus dead-ended with a recorded message?

JourneyOfLife 03-15-2014 10:16 AM

Wow, how this topic drifted.

The first generation of immigrants often do not learn perfect english, unless they were english speaking to begin with. The older the first generation, the less likely they will learn the new language.

This political hot potato has been debunked many times.

New immigrants, some of which are older and might not speak english well... their children assimilate to the new country and are often bilingual... speaking mainly the tongue of the country they live in. They learn the former language because of their parents mainly.

One generation to assimilate.

The reason for spanish signs, phone prompts, etc.... there are so many spanish people in our country, that businesses want to attract that business their way.

Illegal immigration is a bit of a different issue.

Both parties have been complicit. Cheap labor vs Advocating for Rights.

Both sides want the votes! That is probably the only common thread of concern.

dillywho 03-15-2014 10:38 AM

May be a little off topic, but beware of someone who barely speaks English calling and claiming to be from Microsoft about your computer Windows. It's is a scam, folks. I got one yesterday and told the guy on the other end, "No, you are not from Microsoft. You are a scammer! I don't talk to scammers." And hung up.

Nobody will ever call you about "a problem with your Windows" no matter which provider, etc. They do not do business this way. Initiate your own calls if and when there is a real problem. There is always a support line or deal with a local "fixer".

buggyone 03-15-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 845789)
May be a little off topic, but beware of someone who barely speaks English calling and claiming to be from Microsoft about your computer Windows. It's is a scam, folks. I got one yesterday and told the guy on the other end, "No, you are not from Microsoft. You are a scammer! I don't talk to scammers." And hung up.

Nobody will ever call you about "a problem with your Windows" no matter which provider, etc. They do not do business this way. Initiate your own calls if and when there is a real problem. There is always a support line or deal with a local "fixer".

Very good warning to all! Personally, I would not have said anything about knowing he is a scammer but would have just hung up - since I have heard of that scam before.

There is also a scam where someone supposed from the IRS sends an email asking for your bank account information and PIN's.

Just last week ago in the USA Today, it was reported that a lady in New York City gave a fortune teller around $217,000 to get rid of a curse. Hey, some folks are just too stupid to have money.

CFrance 03-15-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 846009)
Very good warning to all! Personally, I would not have said anything about knowing he is a scammer but would have just hung up - since I have heard of that scam before.

There is also a scam where someone supposed from the IRS sends an email asking for your bank account information and PIN's.

Just last week ago in the USA Today, it was reported that a lady in New York City gave a fortune teller around $217,000 to get rid of a curse. Hey, some folks are just too stupid to have money.


Perhaps that would work for the Chicago Cubs?

Bucco 03-15-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 846038)
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Perhaps that would work for the Chicago Cubs?

You have stepped way over the line with a comment even hinting that the Cubs could beat the curse.....that is a major violation of all protocol.

CFrance 03-15-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 846042)
You have stepped way over the line with a comment even hinting that the Cubs could beat the curse.....that is a major violation of all protocol.

Oops...:o

DaleMN 03-15-2014 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Buckeyes (Post 845759)
Someone please explain to me why I must press 1 for English! :rant-rave:

Cuz pressing 2 is for Spanish. :doh:

DouglasMo 03-16-2014 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 846103)
Cuz pressing 2 is for Spanish. :doh:

I have tried to get service from a person in India who I literally could not understand, I was very polite but I had to keep saying, I'm sorry, I don't understand you. She hung up.

I agree with the posters-- press 1 for English should be dropped. We should not have Press 2 For Spanish. We should just speak English. People who come here should learn our language. Period. And we should not be ashamed or politically incorrect to demand it.

I myself have had enough of other language speaking people conversing in their language in front of me instead of using English---so I would not know what they were talking about..but for them that's ok -- that is not a problem….for them.

Bring those jobs back to the U.S. Demand immigrants learn English. My grandfather and my great grandfather had to and I am proud of that fact. They did what they had to do and made their way in the U.S. What is wrong with that idea? I'm signing off now. Those are my thoughts.

DaleMN 03-16-2014 11:36 AM

We should all learn Spanish.

karostay 03-16-2014 11:43 AM

We all should learn to be tolerant


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