[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Well they could always send them to pot rehab.

oh wait...

there's no such thing.

Why's that? Maybe because - there's no need for it.

Funny thing about pot heads, they say it not addictive and I can quit anytime. But, they never do. Also any smoke inhaling into lungs may not be good in the golden years.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Hmm, sorry but I disagree, most of those are not facts.

Hmm.


It is a mind-altering drug - uh, yes, which is the point of pointing out that there are many mind-altering drugs that are legal, and so, people question what is MJ illegal if those other drugs are legal.

It is NOT to justify the usage, it is to show the hypocrisy of sucking down a couple of Manhattans and killing a family out riding in their golf cart by drunk driving home. But then being totally against someone smoking a joint in their own house and pigging out on pizza.

It is not a gateway drug, it has been shown that those that move on to hard drugs, started on MJ because it was easier to obtain and it introduced them to the shady pusher who gets them hooked on the hard stuff. Those that do progress to hard drugs almost always have other issues that lead to it.

You could just as easily say that Aspirin is a gateway drug, that leads to prescription opioids.

Effects on the brain - again, the hypocrisy here is the problem. We are okay with thousands of deaths and brain damage from Alcohol, but MJ has to be illegal even though there are no deaths from MJ overdose and the brain damage is significantly less than that caused by the beers and vodka the kids are drinking.

Yes, it IS against the law, which is the point of this thread, we are discussing why and if it should be legalized. Saying it is against the law is a reason to not legalize it is kind of "interesting".

'It can and does impact family relationships " - hmm, even hear of mean drunks? Ever hear - I am sorry darling, I only slept with them because I was drunk.

That is enough - you get the idea.

Seriously, if you look over your list of negatives, it is a testimony to making alcohol illegal, since in every item you list, alcohol is worse, and yet still legal.

Are you in favor of the prohibition of Alcohol? If not, why not?

They tried that. How did that work out? Only the weak needs the crutch of alcohol and drugs that get person high cause they can’t deal with reality.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Funny thing about pot heads, they say it not addictive and I can quit anytime. But, they never do. Also any smoke inhaling into lungs may not be good in the golden years.

The funny thing about potheads is when they can't get their pot they DONT go into withdrawal, like alcoholics, heroin, and opiate addicts.

The funny thing about people who drink alcohol, they say they can quit any time, but they never do.

Smoking pot is only one way people use it, there are many more, like edibles, tinctures, topicals.

And yet, pot is classified as a Schedule 1 Controlled substance act. And alcohol and addictive substance that will kill you if you over dose is legally available to anyone who wants it.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

They tried that. How did that work out? Only the weak needs the crutch of alcohol and drugs that get person high cause they can’t deal with reality.

Only the weak?

So, anything someone that is weak wants should be illegal?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

The funny thing about potheads is when they can't get their pot they DONT go into withdrawal, like alcoholics, heroin, and opiate addicts.

The funny thing about people who drink alcohol, they say they can quit any time, but they never do.

Smoking pot is only one way people use it, there are many more, like edibles, tinctures, topicals.

And yet, pot is classified as a Schedule 1 Controlled substance act. And alcohol and addictive substance that will kill you if you over dose is legally available to anyone who wants it.

You can over dose on water 💧. It don’t make difference if you crave it you’re going to have it no matter what the cost or the law says. IMO they need to legalize all of it. That way no need for the illegal underground.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Only the weak?

So, anything someone that is weak wants should be illegal?

No, only the weak that can’t get day of reality.

[roob1]

So, difficultly adjusting to what life deals you is a result of being "weak"? That contention comes from the same school of thought that we should be ashamed of mental illness, because it is a weakness. A little archaic?

And are all the who are prescribed antidepressants, antipsychotics, and anxiolytics by their docs weak? Or maybe if they don't get "high" from their prescriptions, that is acceptable.....

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

They tried that. How did that work out? Only the weak needs the crutch of alcohol and drugs that get person high cause they can’t deal with reality.

[PennBF]

A real and much more appropriate question is, "should people go to jail for stimulating young people to use pot which in long terms affects the brain for the young under the age of 20 in a very harming fashion". Of course they should! I believe these are very real criminals as they are taking away the future of these youths and affecting them for the rest of their lives. Is there any greater harm than that #$%^&? Your sleeping better because you have numbed your mind, and lost reality. You have also used money that could have helped the children or grand children towards a better education or life experience so you can drug yourself from facing the world of reality. Whether you are poor or wealthy you are the bottom feeders of building a better world. Just a little bit drugged is drugged regardless the spin you try to put on it. Maybe ask your self why you are not sleeping well and attack the cause rather than promoting drugging. I would challenge those that blindly ignore the impacts of pot on the youth to go to the internet and study and read the terrible impacts it has on the youth in the age group to 25 and
then come back and give the effects it has on a youths life. Go ahead do some work and spend time educating yourself rather than dulling your senses for the sake of a high.

[roob1]

If you think pot causes one to lose touch with reality, you are still being influenced by the Anslinger campaign, and the "Reefer Madness" movie....my word!! For someone to lose touch with reality after using cannabis, they would likely need to be suffering from a psychotic process....extremely small percentage of users.

If you want to see someone who has lost touch with reality, talk with or observe one who is suffering from an active psychosis.

Originally Posted by PennBF

Your sleeping better because you have numbed your mind, and lost reality.

[Freehiker]

Alcohol causes way more issues than marijuana.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by DaddyD

Fantasy drugs? What are you talking about??

You see "the many forms of cocaine be(ing) decriminalized"? What are these "many forms" you are referring to?

There's no denying that those that can afford good legal representation get lighter sentences than those that cannot, and that historically, people of color who were charged with the possession (most often) for the "crack" form of cocaine, received much harsher / lengthier prison sentences than white / caucasian defendants who most often were charged with possession of "powder" cocaine.

And who was it that lobbied for those harsher penalties for crack?

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[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

They tried that. How did that work out? Only the weak needs the crutch of alcohol and drugs that get person high cause they can’t deal with reality.

Wow...

[Slowhand]

Really you must have never gotten high...lmao..the only public nuisance would be a drunk!!.
A person who smokes a joint wouldn't be acting stupid like most drunks do..
For one thing a stoned person does not cause any problems at all. They would never drive to fast if anything they would drive to slow and they would never hurt anyone they are relaxed and ease going people most of the time.
I have been getting high now for over 44 years and used it for my pain management and I do not drink at all. So if you never tried it DO NOT Knock it aleast have an open mind for those of Us who need it and use it for Pain Management.
If I would have done what the Medical Profession wanted me to do I would be taking a hand full of opioids and Muscle relaxer and dying of stomach cancer or some other side effects and hooked on oxycodone. My Pain Management Doctor now give me all three... So along with medical Marijuana and my oxycodone and morphine and muscle relaxer I can go out and act like a teenager even with replacement knee's and a back fusion and a neck fusion... Lol... So roll a joint and enjoy Life...because you only go around Once in Life and this Isn't a Dress Rehearsal...

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I'm a live and let live kind of guy. Don't much care what one does in the privacy of their own home. As long as they don't get high and drive or become an otherwise public nuisance, I'm fine with it.

[RICH1]

I forgot what I was going to say

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

You can over dose on water 💧. It don’t make difference if you crave it you’re going to have it no matter what the cost or the law says. IMO they need to legalize all of it. That way no need for the illegal underground.

Deflection, overdosing on water is possible but very hard.

I know a lot of people that are long-term users and none of them CRAVE MJ, any more than some people crave donuts and others that morning cup of coffee (all of which - sugar and caffeine) have been shown to be addictive also.