[jebartle]

Unbelieveable!....WHY!

[Mr Hanky]

Maybe because we are the most free country in the world. But that's just my guess.

[2BNTV]

Because they are available is my guess.

[l2ridehd]

I have to challenge that factoid. Where did this information come from? does it include those held by governments or just the people? There are a lot of quasi dictatorships where the government owns all the guns. And for good reasons. If you look at just those guns owned by the citizens of each country then it may be close. Mainly because so many countries have taken the guns away from their citizens. Makes moving from Democracy to Socialism to Communism to dictatorship much more easy for the government.

The main reason our constitution provides for the right to bear arms is to protect the people from a government gone out of control, not from each other.

[eweissenbach]

When the "inevitable" civil war between the U.S. Military and the NRA begins, the NRA better hope the nuclear missle show loophole still exists.

(sarcasm)

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

I have to challenge that factoid. Where did this information come from? does it include those held by governments or just the people? There are a lot of quasi dictatorships where the government owns all the guns. And for good reasons. If you look at just those guns owned by the citizens of each country then it may be close. Mainly because so many countries have taken the guns away from their citizens. Makes moving from Democracy to Socialism to Communism to dictatorship much more easy for the government.

The main reason our constitution provides for the right to bear arms is to protect the people from a government gone out of control, not from each other.

12ridehd: spot on. Americans have the freedom and the resources to buy and own guns and we have over emotional people in this country that can't see the forest for the trees and would risk losing their 2nd Amendment rights.

[MelZ]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Unbelieveable!....WHY!

FACT CHECK

Close but no cigar

So much misinformation


http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/filea...rch-Note-9.pdf

There is no one or simple solution to the Ct. school tragedy. Why must people look for easy answer. If you don't like guns don't own one but guns alone are not the problem.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

Gee Wiz with all the guns it's a wonder anybody would want to cross the borders. If the US is such a scary / gun crazed country you would think most people would prefer to break the immigration laws of countries that had better control of all the guns. After all if only the government could control guns and keep them out of the hands of law abiding citizens just think how safe we would all be! Just think of all the freedoms we would have! Amazing the founding fathers didn't think of that when they wrote, voted and passed the constitution

[Golfer in Sanibel]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Unbelieveable!....WHY!

We can afford them?

Would you rather the crazies use IUDs? Don't blame the issues with our mental health system on guns. If these people didn't have a gun, they'd use a knife or acid or a baseball bat or fertilizer (been done recently) or whatever is accessible. If you really want to research this situation you will find the only proven way to reduce loss of life in these situations is to have someone nearby with a conceal/carry weapon. Read Ann Coulter's column in today's Daily Sun.

Let the flaming begin;

[Shimpy]

Japan said the main reason they didn't try to come ashore to attack this country in WWII was because of so many armed citizens.

[jebartle]

but this fact was menioned on Sunday Morning program, I believe it was Alrazeed (sp?) show!....Soooo, conclusion, guess you can dispute any facts?, depends on WHERE you look, and if it supports our opinions, Right!

Originally Posted by MelZ

FACT CHECK

Close but no cigar

So much misinformation


http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/filea...rch-Note-9.pdf

There is no one or simple solution to the Ct. school tragedy. Why must people look for easy answer. If you don't like guns don't own one but guns alone are not the problem.

[Bones]

No misinfo.....the info. was spot on.....USA accounts for 5% of the world
Population and we own 50% of the planet's guns.
Why????? Maybe our mentality is ''might makes right'' Too bad.

[Bonnevie]

as someone who had a father, uncle, and brother as police officers I can only speak to the experience of being around them. All of them knew the potential dangers of guns. My father drew his only once in his entire career. Most police officers hope to never have to draw their guns because they know the potential.

Whether you're on the side of it being justified or not, the truth is Trevon Martin would be alive today if George Zimmerman wasn't carrying a gun, if only because he wouldn't have felt brave enough to confront someone he thought was a burglar. In another shooting in our county, a neighbor was upset a child was skateboarding in a common area and came out to tell him to leave (with a gun). A parent with his young daughter stood up for the skateboarder and the result was the parent was shot and killed in front of his daughter....over a neighborhood disagreement. Again, if he had not brought the gun to the fight, no one would have been shot.

Believe me, police officers don't want all these "wannabees" having guns. Police have to have them. These other people seem to be just hoping for the day they can whip them out and be the hero like in all the action movies. Life isn't like that. You can't shoot with the accuracy portrayed in movies and on TV. The Fort Hood shooter exchanged shots with a trained armed police officer and despite her getting off several shots, he still continued. Just because someone owns a gun and practices at a firing range does not automatically give them the experience to handle an armed shooter.

To me what's frightening is the lack of respect people have for the danger guns pose. They get their concealed license permits, do a little target shooting, and think they can handle whatever comes along....except in a split second decision, it could very well be the wrong thing....just ask George Zimmerman, and the man from my county now sentenced to years in jail for manslaughter.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by hope2soon

as someone who had a father, uncle, and brother as police officers I can only speak to the experience of being around them. All of them knew the potential dangers of guns. My father drew his only once in his entire career. Most police officers hope to never have to draw their guns because they know the potential.


Whether you're on the side of it being justified or not, the truth is Trevon Martin would be alive today if George Zimmerman wasn't carrying a gun, if only because he wouldn't have felt brave enough to confront someone he thought was a burglar. In another shooting in our county, a neighbor was upset a child was skateboarding in a common area and came out to tell him to leave (with a gun). A parent with his young daughter stood up for the skateboarder and the result was the parent was shot and killed in front of his daughter....over a neighborhood disagreement. Again, if he had not brought the gun to the fight, no one would have been shot.

Believe me, police officers don't want all these "wannabees" having guns. Police have to have them. These other people seem to be just hoping for the day they can whip them out and be the hero like in all the action movies. Life isn't like that. You can't shoot with the accuracy portrayed in movies and on TV. The Fort Hood shooter exchanged shots with a trained armed police officer and despite her getting off several shots, he still continued. Just because someone owns a gun and practices at a firing range does not automatically give them the experience to handle an armed shooter.

To me what's frightening is the lack of respect people have for the danger guns pose. They get their concealed license permits, do a little target shooting, and think they can handle whatever comes along....except in a split second decision, it could very well be the wrong thing....just ask George Zimmerman, and the man from my county now sentenced to years in jail for manslaughter.

Well stated hope2. Every police officer I know or have heard from supports stringent gun control. But then who knows, maybe they are planning on taking over the country by force. (last sentence - satire)

[Monkei]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

I have to challenge that factoid. Where did this information come from? does it include those held by governments or just the people? There are a lot of quasi dictatorships where the government owns all the guns. And for good reasons. If you look at just those guns owned by the citizens of each country then it may be close. Mainly because so many countries have taken the guns away from their citizens. Makes moving from Democracy to Socialism to Communism to dictatorship much more easy for the government.

The main reason our constitution provides for the right to bear arms is to protect the people from a government gone out of control, not from each other.

Well if that is the reasoning behind the second ... You already lost. It has since become another chip in the NRAs ability to make even more money for the gun industry.