[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

NY ignored the issue too long and now they are "paying for it."

The NY area is over 1/2 of the USA cases and they are 10 times the next state.

And they're all flying down here to escape the quarantine (and to enjoy the warm weather and cheap airline fares). Entitled. Not following orders. How can this end well?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

& over 90% of China has recovered already.

Who says? China? I would believe anything that comes out of that government’s mouth.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Paper1

The sad part of this for me is PPE should be readily available for all of us but it seems the mighty USA can't even get masks to their hospitals. Early on a number of "experts" said wearing an N95 mask would not help curb transmission of the virus, bull!!!!. It is costing thousands of dollars to treat a single person with this virus while these masks, gloves, and hand sanitizer cost almost nothing. Everyone going into a grocery store or working in a store should be wearing at least a N95 mask and gloves but none are available. I know we Americans think we are a lot more intelligent than the Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese but I can't help notice they are all wearing masks and gloves. But cheer up the stock market rallied today with record unemployment claims and there are a million checks going out to everyone who can vote, maybe we can attach a couple rubber bands on them and use them for a mask. Thank you for letting me vent.

Well should be deleted due to political over tone.

Can’t get toilet paper either, where do you think majority are made? CHINA, what happens when there run of on anything? It becomes very, very, VERY hard to get. Takes time for company to quadruple production of anything in crisis.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

Majority of us watch the news also.
I wouldn’t trust anything Chinese government says.

[jswirs]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

Hmmm, yes, I think the "grim statistics" state that 1,000 people in the U.S. are now deceased from the covid 19 virus. So 79,000 more people would have to die from the current virus to match the amount of people that died from influenza just 2 years ago.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by npwalters

Actually the report is that the US has the most REPORTED cases. It is highly likely that China (for instance) had many unreported cases. The US has been aggressive in testing for COVID19 and that drove the number up. Good information to have but it should not be used purely as a measure of our response - or lack of.

I am not sure of your definition of aggressively testing. IMO the US is still actively avoiding aggressively testing and has in place a policy of very selectively testing only the most ill patients. And even with that policy there are still shortages of test kits, testing sites. In Italy they are doing mass testing of everyone in some regions. Not just the symptomatic but those who have absolutely no symptoms. That defines aggressive testing. South Korea had walk in testing for everyone, no doctor's order. That is aggressive testing.
Here, you need a doctor's order to have private testing done. The doctor must collect the sample unless you happen to have a mobile lab set up for a few days in your polo field. Most doctors are NOT collecting samples.
But the point is, the US is among the most restrictive in testing both because of the way our health care system is organized, the still great shortage of testing kits and sites. Do you really believe that if today you developed a sore throat and mild runny nose that there is anyplace you could get a Covid test easily done?
If there is anything about testing rates in the US, it is how unaggressive or unprepared we have been so far. I have a distant relative in rural Ohio, in bed with 102 fever and respiratory symptoms. She has been told she does not need testing. No test for her. There have been no reported cases in her rural county. Do you see why?
Are other countries less prepared than the US, certainly. Are other countries struggling with lack of testing, certainly. Are countries fudging their numbers.. I don't know.

Things are improving as to test kits and in terms of people and leaders taking this much more seriously than they did 2 weeks ago. Both of those attitude adjustments will help. But we have certainly not changed the approach from very selective testing to anything aggressive. When you get that phone call from someone you ate with last week who now has cold symptoms and you ask, "Did you get a Covid test?", you know that it is very likely the answer will be "I called my doctor and I don't qualify." So now you're in the dark about that potential exposure. Then it won't seem like we're aggressively testing anymore.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

3 weeks ago Mayor Deblasio was urging New Yorkers to go out on the town.

Absolutely accurate. It was Gov Cuomo who shut down Broadway, and the St Patricks Day parade when De Blasio didn't. The Governor gets high marks for acting to flatten the curve. De Blasio failed to act until NYC was in trouble.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

3 weeks ago Mayor Deblasio was urging New Yorkers to go out on the town.

Florida’s Governor still hasn’t ordered everyone to stay home except groceries or prescriptions. Does he intentionally want Florida residents to get sick?

Why so many non symptom testing available in TV but none available for other states? Just keeping voters intact?

[CharlesNT]

Exactly, not to mention from the start the Chinese have lied about and distorted the severity of the problem they had.

A comparison to tests vs population, percentage of tests that were done that came back positive, and positive tests vs deaths are far better indicators of the severity of the problem.

In yesterday’s press conference they said only 15% of the tests come back positive.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Who says? China? I would believe anything that comes out of that government’s mouth.

Jus reporting data from John Hopkins.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Just in case you didn't think we had a problem.. We just passed Italy and China in confirmed cases.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

You can not trust any information from China. No one really knows what is going on there!

[Leadbone1]

At this time it is more of a New York problem than it is a U. S. problem. And the reason why we’re showing more cases is because we have tested more than anyone or any country despite what you may hear...

[Leadbone1]

We have done significantly more testing than South Korea did!

[jacksonbrown]

"The US has been aggressive in testing for COVID19 and that drove the number up. "

Exactly!

And, I see no mention of the number of those suffering from seasonal flu.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Believing anything China says is dangerous for your health,

Believing anything that is said in the Coronavirus task force news conferences except by the doctors is extremely dangerous for your health.