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Old 07-07-2024, 02:37 PM
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The extreme numbers of galaxies (200 billion to 2 trillion) and the number of stars within a typical galaxy (100 billion) would suggest a high probability that life of some form exists elsewhere. The extreme distances of space would suggest a low probability that any extraterrestrial life has visited here. Our own galaxy is 100,000 light-years across. The nearest solar system is over 4 light-years away. Achieving any significant percentage of the speed of light will require some extremely advanced technology. Also, keep in mind that once you accelerate to speed, you must decelerate and that takes time. Wormholes are a mathematical bi-product and may or may not exist let alone be created and utilized. I suspect there is a low probability that an advanced civilization would find that there is a compelling reason to expend the resources to visit here if they had the capability. Regarding advertising our existence, significant electromagnetic energy has only been transmitted from earth for about 50 years. Therefore, the signals have only reached out in a sphere of diameter 100 light-years. This isn’t very far. Also, there is the issue of decreasing signal to noise.


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Perhaps the government thinks the disclosure of ET would harm our belief system just as Winston Churchill said in his private letter which is available online. Also the one thing scientists believe in is every living species needs water to survive. Looking at Earth from outer space would be like viewing an oasis in a desert to them.
Also after the year 1945 when we first used nuclear weapons maybe this was seen as a threat and we must be closely monitored. Kinda of like watch out "They found the matches!"

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Old 07-07-2024, 03:03 PM
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The extreme numbers of galaxies (200 billion to 2 trillion) and the number of stars within a typical galaxy (100 billion) would suggest a high probability that life of some form exists elsewhere. The extreme distances of space would suggest a low probability that any extraterrestrial life has visited here. Our own galaxy is 100,000 light-years across. The nearest solar system is over 4 light-years away. Achieving any significant percentage of the speed of light will require some extremely advanced technology. Also, keep in mind that once you accelerate to speed, you must decelerate and that takes time. Wormholes are a mathematical bi-product and may or may not exist let alone be created and utilized. I suspect there is a low probability that an advanced civilization would find that there is a compelling reason to expend the resources to visit here if they had the capability. Regarding advertising our existence, electromagnetic energy has only been transmitted from earth for about 50 years. Therefore, the signals have only reached out in a sphere of diameter 100 light-years. This isn’t very far. Also, there is the issue of decreasing signal to noise.
There have been a number of scify stories about starships or fleets of starships, traveling at sub-light speed, carrying massive numbers of human migrants to populate a new world and leaving a dieing Earth behind. The stories are of multi-generational searches for an Earth 2.0. Migration of our species to a new world would likely be a one way trip, regardless of travel speed. Pioneers of a new age. 👩*🚀🧑*🚀👽🤖
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Old 07-07-2024, 03:06 PM
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Given the huge number of planets out there, have to think life has found a way.

At some point I do think that people whether us or extra terrestials will find a way to travel at high speed.

Do think there is a possibility we have been visited by aliens who have either helped us or just watched us from above
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Old 07-07-2024, 03:38 PM
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Given the huge number of planets out there, have to think life has found a way.

At some point I do think that people whether us or extra terrestials will find a way to travel at high speed.

Do think there is a possibility we have been visited by aliens who have either helped us or just watched us from above
Paragraph 1: Without a doubt!

Paragraph 2: Some theoretical physicists think it may be possible to exceed the speed of light. Even if we can't, that doesn't mean we are stuck here forever. With the damage already done, for the sake of our species I have hope for the future.

Paragraph 3: Your guess is as good as anyone's at this point.

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Old 07-07-2024, 04:20 PM
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There have been a number of scify stories about starships or fleets of starships, traveling at sub-light speed, carrying massive numbers of human migrants to populate a new world and leaving a dieing Earth behind. The stories are of multi-generational searches for an Earth 2.0. Migration of our species to a new world would likely be a one way trip, regardless of travel speed. Pioneers of a new age. 👩*🚀🧑*🚀👽🤖
Someone writing a "story" ?
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Old 07-07-2024, 04:24 PM
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Paragraph 1: Without a doubt!

Paragraph 2: Some theoretical physicists think it may be possible to exceed the speed of light. Even if we can't, that doesn't mean we are stuck here forever. With the damage already done, for the sake of our species I have hope for the future.

Paragraph 3: Your guess is as good as anyone's at this point.
Speculation on top of speculation , guess
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Old 07-07-2024, 04:35 PM
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There have been a number of scify stories about starships or fleets of starships, traveling at sub-light speed, carrying massive numbers of human migrants to populate a new world and leaving a dieing Earth behind. The stories are of multi-generational searches for an Earth 2.0. Migration of our species to a new world would likely be a one way trip, regardless of travel speed. Pioneers of a new age. 👩*🚀🧑*🚀👽🤖
Migrants you say...hmmmm
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Old 07-07-2024, 04:54 PM
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Speculation on top of speculation , guess
Why not
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Old 07-07-2024, 05:50 PM
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Why not
A person's , guess, will always inform their speculation, backwards logic
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Old 07-08-2024, 06:58 AM
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A person's , guess, will always inform their speculation, backwards logic
There is no place stated / there is no real law that anyone can't speculate on speculation. There is no punishment for conversational speculation. Passes the time very well, when one has time to pass. . Who cares about sticking with logic in bbs conversation?

all human creativity starts with a speculation of doing the previously impossible, taking a risk of something different. . if that is the worst of the human behaviors, bring it on!

The risk is that one might take a "trip to Abilene."

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Old 07-08-2024, 07:26 AM
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Migrants you say...hmmmm
How do you think our ancestors ended up "out of Africa"?
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Old 07-08-2024, 07:54 AM
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There is no place stated / there is no real law that anyone can't speculate on speculation. There is no punishment for conversational speculation. Passes the time very well, when one has time to pass. . Who cares about sticking with logic in bbs conversation?

all human creativity starts with a speculation of doing the previously impossible, taking a risk of something different. . if that is the worst of the human behaviors, bring it on!

The risk is that one might take a "trip to Abilene."

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No argument but every time you add a layer of speculation you multiply the odds
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Old 07-08-2024, 08:59 AM
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Speculation on top of speculation , guess
That, too, is speculation on top of speculation, guess.
But, what I would like to know is, are you jimbo or not
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Old 07-08-2024, 10:40 AM
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That, too, is speculation on top of speculation, guess.
But, what I would like to know is, are you jimbo or not
To be truthful I am really an extraterrestrial, just dropping in on occasion , can't tell you why, sometimes just for giggles we will let you guys see something you can't Id or have a logical explanation for . we place bets on how it will be spun out, the odds go up in a sequential bet on a bet

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Old 07-08-2024, 02:10 PM
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Oh what fun my friend and I had in our "UFO tree" looking for UFOs. Never saw one but the friendship stands almost 70 years later.
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