[Taltarzac725]

Beyond 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot': what if there's no indictment in Ferguson? | Hannah Giorgis | Comment is free | The Guardian

I found this article rather offensive about the current racial situation in the US. It is from almost a month ago and seems to have little basis in reality.

It really depends on the local community with respect to just how far race relations have come.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

That is part of ToTV..............facts, opinions, opinions acting as facts.

True dat!

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Beyond 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot': what if there's no indictment in Ferguson? | Hannah Giorgis | Comment is free | The Guardian

I found this article rather offensive about the current racial situation in the US. It is from almost a month ago and seems to have little basis in reality.

It really depends on the local community with respect to just how far race relations have come.

Whether you agree or disagree with her position the article does substantiate almost every point with links to other articles. There are about 40 links. I did not read them all.

Writing a position paper when I was in school required supporting an opinion with books or periodicals listed in the bibliography. I think it's easier to understand why someone reaches their conclusion when you can read the basis of that opinion. Linking makes this doable. Back in the day the professor had to trust the author. Reading all she links to takes a lot of time.

I'm getting tired researching, trying to find the truth but I think Tony Soprano's mother would tell me "Poor You".

I agree that race relations is a local problem that varies with respect to how far each community has come.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by tomwed

Whether you agree or disagree with her position the article does substantiate almost every point with links to other articles. There are about 40 links. I did not read them all.

Writing a position paper when I was in school required supporting an opinion with books or periodicals listed in the bibliography. I think it's easier to understand why someone reaches their conclusion when you can read the basis of that opinion. Linking makes this doable. Back in the day the professor had to trust the author. Reading all she links to takes a lot of time.

I'm getting tired researching, trying to find the truth but I think Tony Soprano's mother would tell me "Poor You".

I agree that race relations is a local problem that varies with respect to how far each community has come.

Her links are questionable. They do show her bias. It sounds like you support my position that what is happening in Ferguson does not give the true picture of what is occuring in Minneapolis, the Villages, Reno, NYC, etc. She also cherry picks from history with her links.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Her links are questionable. They do show her bias. It sounds like you support my position that what is happening in Ferguson does not give the true picture of what is occuring in Minneapolis, the Villages, Reno, NYC, etc. She also cherry picks from history with her links.

I'll go further then that. Within each county their are differences.

If there was only way of looking at a problem, gathering the facts and making an opinion then Supreme Court decisions would be unanimous. Call it cherry picking if you want.

We are "finding common ground."

[dillywho]

Originally Posted by KayakerNC

It's the mentality of EVERY parent that their kids can do no wrong (until they do). And the fact that the sign was photo-shopped to promote racism says a lot about who is promoting hatred.

Not EVERY parent. If that is the case, they know nothing about kids or parenting. Here again, you cannot paint the whole world with one brush.

[dillywho]

I worked with a guy that summed up things nicely.

Mike said, "As far as I am concerned, everyone is black. I can only judge them by the way they talk to me and treat me, as well as others around them."

You see, Mike was totally BLIND.

[pivo]

If we are t they are out they have good race relations, we have to get rid of the bad apple, Sharpton's and Jackson's All they do is poison the young black kids with hatred for whites because they make millions of dollars, right now the garner family behind Sharpton
are looking at 75 million suite against the city, it's been that way for the last 40 years,All they do protest and then a settlement,The young black kid today will not listen to police or the law they have the sharpton attitude.
I have not seen any white protesters looting and burning buildings have you.

Infact did we protest or loot after the O.J. Simpson trial ,, no ,,,why? because in our bringing up by responsible people taught us better,

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by dillywho

I worked with a guy that summed up things nicely.

Mike said, "As far as I am concerned, everyone is black. I can only judge them by the way they talk to me and treat me, as well as others around them."

You see, Mike was totally BLIND.

Your Dad's quote says a lot about you too.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by tomwed

Your Dad's quote says a lot about you too.

If you knew her like I do, you would be as blessed as I am. She is a courageous woman with a great moral compass, great intellect, plus common sense, and an amazing sense of humor. She is a good cook and a great golfer and a wonderful mother and wife. She has tons of friends but makes each of us feel the most loved.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

If you knew her like I do, you would be as blessed as I am. She is a courageous woman with a great moral compass, great intellect, plus common sense, and an amazing sense of humor. She is a good cook and a great golfer and a wonderful mother and wife. She has tons of friends but makes each of us feel the most loved.

Gracie, I think I was misunderstood. On the bottom of her post it reads

To quote my dad:
"I never did see a board that didn't have two sides."
It's a great quote, words to live by and special that she or he quotes their dad. The quote says all those kind words you said. [maybe not the golfing]

I meant the opposite of anything that may have sounded snarky.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by tomwed

Gracie, I think I was misunderstood. On the bottom of her post it reads

To quote my dad:
"I never did see a board that didn't have two sides."
It's a great quote, words to live by and special that she or he quotes their dad.

I meant the opposite of anything that may have sounded snarky.

I didn't think you sounded snarky. I knew just what you meant. You intended it as a sincere compliment. I just had to tell you how much I agree.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I didn't think you sounded snarky. I knew just what you meant. You intended it as a sincere compliment. I just had to tell you how much I agree.

so sorry,,,,,i misunderstood you
[it can be tough, talking without faces]

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by pivo

If we are t they are out they have good race relations, we have to get rid of the bad apple, Sharpton's and Jackson's All they do is poison the young black kids with hatred for whites because they make millions of dollars, right now the garner family behind Sharpton
are looking at 75 million suite against the city, it's been that way for the last 40 years,All they do protest and then a settlement,The young black kid today will not listen to police or the law they have the sharpton attitude.
I have not seen any white protesters looting and burning buildings have you.

Infact did we protest or loot after the O.J. Simpson trial ,, no ,,,why? because in our bringing up by responsible people taught us better,

While I Mostly agree with the view that folks like Sharpton are part of the problem and not part of the solution, I would add that folks like Limbaugh and Beck are part of the problem on the other side. You also make a sweeping generalization in "our bringing up" which sounds elitist and racist. Quite certain there is no "white bringing up" or "black bringing up", just different ways of parenting by different individual people.

[manaboutown]

Rampant criminal behavior going unpunished is the problem. Some folks expect to be able to commit whatever felonies they please and be let off the hook or just slapped on the hand when caught and brought to justice. Unfortunately in many places most criminals commit many grievous crimes before they are caught and tried for even one of them.

Criminals need to be held accountable for their behavior. That includes rioters, arsonists and looters.